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to: ROSS CASSELL
from: WAYNE CHIRNSIDE
date: 2010-05-25 21:35:00
subject: Re: Ice Plug?

-=> ROSS CASSELL wrote to WAYNE CHIRNSIDE <=-

 RC> Hello WAYNE!

 RC> 25 May 10 20:16, you wrote to me:

 RC>> You cant safely flash freeze something that is what amounts to be
 RC>> a boiling cauldron (boiling not in the terms of temps but in
 RC>> agitation).

 RC>> What would result if anything solid resulted would have bubbles
 RC>> and cavities in it.

 WC> AIR freezes liquid under exposure liquid helium.

 WC> The REALITY that spurred the idea of using liquid nitrogen or liquid
 WC> helium to freeze the oil was from the well itself in that the methane
 WC> became a solid hydride at the temperature and depth of the well as
 WC> PROVEN from the attempt to cap the well by the use of a dome.

 RC> Oil has many different components with differing properties, all of
 RC> which get skewed when under pressure of the depths.

 WC> It DID plug the dome.

 WC> Any idea as to why this would NOT plug the pipe allowing for
 WC> the cementing to seal it off?

 RC> Where do you insert the cement plug if you have whatever goo there
 RC> solid or otherwise?

How about on TOP of the plug?

 RC> Assuming your idea had any merit.

Something I'm not confident in myself.
It's just an IDEA.
Where's yours?

 RC> and why havent you called BP up to suggest it, you havent anything but
 RC> time, you dont work, so there is 24 hours in every day for you.

 WC> So what is YOUR solution?

 RC> I wasnt offering one, and if I did, I surely wouldnt offer it in
 RC> Fidonet, I dont think the folks at BP read Fidonet, much less know what
 RC> it is.

Hey we coald attack Iran AND N. Korea!

 WC> You were critical of my claim there wre no WMD in Iraq and you were
 WC> WRONG.

 RC> Who cares what you claim boy?

Mot CLAIM, REALITY.

Screw your 'boy'.

 RC> You also claimed to have had a stroke and the swine flu.

Gee whiz like no one ever had the flu?

I had a stroke as well.
Small change these days with other concerns.

 WC> You were critical of my opposition to Dick Cheney's secret energy
 WC> meetings and this is but the lessor of the results.

 RC> Everybody staked their positions on the war then, the fact that I
 RC> decided not to immediately take your viewpoint then infuriated you.

Yes it DID due to the costs incurred by tens of thousands of neeedlessly
disabled
and crippled veterans.
Ameriacans.
MY people.

What YOU are is anyones guess.


 RC> Going to war with what in hindsight turns out to have been embellished
 RC> facts, isnt new to the USA...

 RC> "REMEMBER THE MAINE".... Spanish American War...

Ah yes, the argument we've screwed up before justifies the latest F'up.

Back when I had the stroke I became rather single minded and focused on
a single individual who encompassed the traits of everything I hated ijn the
world.

That individual was YOU.
It gave me focus in a trying and difficult time.

Privately to certain decent individuals I've confided that I'd not expected to
survive
the stroke and that my attack on you was just a last ditch effort to cause you
to reveal
your true nature.

In this I succeeded.

Unexpectedly I survived the stroke which was rather unfortunate given
my outbursts of Dec. 2006 :-(

 RC> Just how much past and current territory did we gain Mr Chirnside?

 RC> "Gulf Of Tonkin" ... Vietnam War

What has that to do with the current discussion other than your blatent attempt
at diversion?

 RC> Ike may have sent some advisors, JFK may have sent even more advisors,
 RC> but LBJ using the Tonkin incident turned that war into what it later
 RC> became. So if we want to use hindsight, LBJ easily could have, with the
 RC> stroke of his pen, reversed the policies of his 2 predecessors and
 RC> eliminated all US involvement, had he done so, just how much greater
 RC> would his great society have been?

What has this to do with the blowout in the Gulf of Mexico?

 RC> Whether you are right or wrong about Iraq Wayne, it gains you nothing
 RC> and it certainly wont gain you very much by bringing it up every 5
 RC> seconds.

I was RIGHT.
Demonstrably so.
End.

 WC> You are in the final analysis YOU and in the end I guess
 WC> that is more than enough revenge for me.

 RC> If you need to take revenge out on someone whom disagrees with you,
 RC> then I pity you.

There will never be any pity in me for you.

I for one never assaulted nor attacked the weak or disabled and this before
I myself became one such a person. 

You are what you are and that is quite enough for me.



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