On 05-25-10, BOB KLAHN said to TIM RICHARDSON:


TR>> She is eligible for welfare, food stamps, medical services
TR>> and housing for her baby, *supposedly* a U.S. citizen. But
TR>> she's deported back to Mexico. So her welfare check and
TR>> food stamps are mailed to her in Mexico.


bk>>They do? Now that one I never heard of.


tr> It happens. Or at least it did. There was a big brohaha
tr> over it some time back. It was a large part of what
tr> proposition 187 was all about.


BK>Ok, some welfare is state run, so that may have been a
BK>California thing.


A federal court here in California declared most of prop 187 unconstitutional.
On what grounds I don't know.


First she (the judge) put a restraining order on it. The parts that required
authorities to verify legal status prior to granting welfare benefits, she
called `unauthorized enforcement of federal laws'.


So much for that.



The problem she had with it was the reporting of illegal status to federal
authorities, and the denial of welfare and medical services based on illegal
alien status! WTF!


tr> We don't *owe* Mexico anything. *We* created this country,
tr> and if Mexicans want what we have here, let them have the
tr> guts to stand up and fight for it in their own nation.


BK>And they will say, it's the US drug trade fueling the violence
BK>there, and US gun sellers providing the guns the drug gangs are
BK>using.


If they policed their side of the border, and dealt with *their* narcotics
exportation* problem, there wouldn't *be* a US drug trade to speak of in the
first place.


As for gun sellers, thats a lot of hogwash put out by the Sarah Brady bunch,
echoed by the likes of Boxer and Feinstein in Congress.


The vast majority of the firearms Mexican drug runners use don't even come
from the US. They are mainly stolen, if not outright supplied, by the Mexican
army!


tr> Mexico is still mainly in the hands of the big land owners,
tr> the money-movers, and the drug lords.


BK>And near the border it's more and more drug lords.


Americans living near the border need to arm themselves and protect their
property.


tr> There are places in Mexico where people live in such
tr> poverty as to make our worst ghetto look like paradise by
tr> comparision.



tr> make it better for themselves and their children, that
tr> isn't America's problem. And we shouldn't be  punished for
tr> their lack of courage.



BK>Again, Americans are providing the money the drug lords use to
BK>buy the guns Americans provide. They have the guns, the others
BK>can't do much about it.


They don't get the majority of their guns from America. They are coming from
source below the border. Much of the sophisticated weaponry drug runners have
are military hardware. Provided no doubt by the Mexican army!


BK>The golden rule should be the gun rule. He who has the guns
BK>makes the rules.


Americans have guns. They should be allowed to start using them.


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