CM>  CM>      My point Jim they are un-constitutional, where as the state 
passe
CM>  CM>      a law and the constitution dose not defend or up hold . I could 
u
CM>  CM>      another law , how about you have to show ID to but tobacco 
unless
CM>  CM>      you are over 26... but the law for legally buying tobacco is 18 
y
CM>  CM>      of age .
CM> 
CM>  DM> Charles, the intent of that law is to keep businesses from
CM>  DM> "unknowlingly"  selling tobacco to minors wbo "look like they're 
18." 
CM>  DM> By mandating ID checks  for people who don't appear to be over 26-27
CM>  DM> years of age, then the older  looking 16-17 year olds won't be able 
to
CM>  DM> sneak by.   
CM>  DM> (I'd also support the same ID check responsibility for the purchase 
of
CM>  DM> Alcohol by anyone under the age of 30.)
CM>  DM> 
CM>  DM> BTW: In the past, with only voluntary controls, the only time people
CM>  DM> checked  ID's for minimum age purchases such as alcohol and tobacco,
CM>  DM> checked  ID's for minimum age purchases such as alcohol and tobacco,
CM>  DM> was when their  sales license was on probation for selling to 
minors. 
CM>  DM> One time when I was  checking ID's at a local bar, we had to check
CM>  DM> everyone, (I carded and 80 year  old woman, and boy was she
CM>  DM> pleased.)). 
CM>  DM> -!- GEcho 1.00
CM>  DM>  ! Origin: No Such Luck BBS, San Diego, CA. (619)583-5379 
1:202/810)
CM> 
CM>      I support put goverment controles on everthing and outlawing any and
CM>      all personal/provate rights or responsiblities ... Sounds like we 
re
CM>      in total agreement!
????????
 
Charles, how can you in the first quote, be opposed to congressional 
ntrusion
into the lives of the people, and in the last one, be in favor of it?  Are 
ou
running for office here? 
 
If you're being cynical here, then and some type of symbol to show it.
 
I'm not in favor of all the laws either the Federal Congress, State 
Legislators, or even my Municipal Councils make, but I live within their 
guidelines when ever possible.  
 
Remember the words of Cheif Joseph (Tool-Hool-Smool-Moot):
"Let me be a free man, and I will obey every law, or submit to the penelty."
 
Dennis Martin
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