-=> Quoting Rodrigo Cesar Banhara to Bat Lang, [27 Sep 99  10:34:45] <=-

 -=> Quoting Bat Lang to Charles Gaefke <=-

 BL> http://www.software.ibm.com/os/warp/netscape/

 BL> I hope you have been following the technique for converting this dnld
 BL> into an ftp session. If not, and you are having problems with aborted
 BL> dnlds on the above site, holler back.  Good Modeming!  /\oo/\

 RCB> My curiosity arisen... :)

 RCB> Is possible to get file in real ftp sessions?

Yessir!

 RCB> I say again, by nftp, ftpbrowser or like?

I can only speak from experience with NFTP, but yessir! Let me find that
post: (begging for indulgence from those to whom this is a repeat)

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My last post in this thread was bemoaning the lack of a 'continue' or
'retry' when downloading large files from IBM via NSN 4.04. }^: At that
time I was trying to get Java RT 1.1.8, which I finally got after MANY
attempts, each of which would only offer me a Y/N option when it found
the aborted stub in my x:\DOWN\ dir.

The gnashing of teeth getting that file was as nothing compared to the
numerous aborts experienced trying to get the 8/11 refresh of NSC 4.61.
Last nite (really between 3 & 5am this morning) I must have initiated
ten dnlds, which aborted at various points, nothing bigger than 1926k of
a 9632k total. Then I noticed that the URL ('Location' line on the
"Saving Location" screen) at the top had a lovely "ftp" as the first
three char's. This made me slobber at the prospect of getting this thing
via my NFTP pgm, with it's 'Continue' capability. There have been hints
in here by folks that play their cards far too close to their vests to
be of any use to me. They banter about with names like "urlget" and REXX
scripts, which don't do much for this non-prog'r.

I tried to 'snip' that Location URL, but was unsuccessful. My mouse was
useless as regards 'marking' that URL. So I did a print screen, and
extracted it with the aid of a magnifier, assisted by the same magnifier
verifying tough to resolve items in that URL, particularly the ':' char.
Next I made an entry in my NFTP bookmark file, including my IBM username
and password. No Joy! I could reach the site, but it didn't like the
username and password that had taken me to that screen that had the two
filenames (OS2EN46S.EXE & PLUG30EN.EXE). Then I had a major lightstorm
(above my head). {^; Here's the URL that I had copied and was dorking
with:

"ftp://os2v46na:xxxxxxxx@198.17.57.81/OS2EN46S.EXE"
       ~~~~~~~~ ^^^^^^^^
The lightstorm was noting that each of those first two underlined groups
contained exactly 8 chars, and the first resembled the filename, whilst
the second (encoded above as x's) resembled a scrambled password (as in:
gazornenplatz). So, back in my NFTP bookmark file, I made that first
group the 'username' and the second group the password. Success. I was
now logged on to the ftp site, staring at an empty dir. Fortunately NFTP
has an F1 help screen that told me Sh-G would enable me to ask for
hidden files. So I typed in OS2EN46S.EXE and  and VIOLA! {^;
There is the files download screen asking me if I would like to
'Continue'. "Yes, thank you very much!" And up jumps my familiar NFTP
File Transfer Screen, showing me that it had indeed found the (by then)
5582kb stub (from my last and best attempt with NSN 4.04) from which it
blithely 'continued' without a single hitch, and I now have the whole
enchilada.  Whew!

Now, this may appear to the 'urlget' crowd a kindergarten primer, but to
me (and =hopefully= others) it was and IS a major breakthrough.
So if you are in the latter group, and have yet to dnld 4.61, apply the
above to your FTP client, and you'll be in fat city before you know it.
As SOON as that "Saving Location" screen pops up, do the 
routine before it aborts and leaves you with no clue.

If you do not yet have an FTP client, I recommend NFTP as a very user
friendly/yet capable candidate. Written by a savvy Russian prog'r in
Moscow. I also tried NcFTP, but found NFTP more than worth the $20 (I
think) registration. If you know *nix, you might prefer the former, but
would also not be insulted by the latter, IMHO. Tha...tha...tha...that's
all, folks.

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Good Modeming!  /\oo/\

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