On 12/08/2010 06:57 PM, Ross Sauer -> Jeff Binkley wrote:
 RS> "Jeff Binkley -> Ross Sauer"  wrote
in news:31617
 RS> $POL_INC{at}JamNNTPd:

 BK>>>>> I do believe accusing a poster of criminal activity is
 BK>>>>> against the rules.G

 JM>>>> So it is. Guess I should have said people like ORS, who, IMO
 RS> are
 JM>>>> nothing more than welfare cheats.


 JM>>>> I expect the moderator will rule on that.

 JM>>>> 'spect he will.

 RS>>> Until he does, how about you fill us in.

 RS>>> Precisely *HOW* did I cheat?

 RS>>> Couple years ago I pointed out how Iowa corn farmers (who are
 RS> hardly
 RS>>> hurting in the least,) get more money in a month, than I would get
 RS> in
 RS>>> 25 years, in direct cash payouts under farm subsidies.

 RS>>> Not one of you have even expressed disapproval of the corn
 RS> subsidies.

 RS>>> But you are oh-so-condemning of me.

 RS>>> You know why?

 JB>> While I may not be wild about farm subsides, the farmers actually
 JB>> produce something and are good for the country. Shall I contrast that
 JB>> with you ?

 RS> That's just it.
 RS> They get those subsidies even for *NOT* producing anything.
 RS> The entire farm subsidy program is outmoded, it was created when just
 RS> about all farms in the US were family farms.

It was FDR who started the farm subsidies and he made sure it would profit
his corporate cronies first.

 RS> Nowadays most farms are coporate owned, and family farms are in the
 RS> minority.

 RS> And if a business, which is what a farm is, a business, *HAS* to have
 RS> government subsidies even when not producing or producing large profits,
 RS> that subsidy needs to be ended.

I have no problem with ending them. Here's a clue; it's all about control
and being able to manipulate the market.

 RS> Yet it's *REPUBLICANS* (like Charles Grassley of Iowa) who yell the
 RS> loudest if farm subsidies are proposed to be cut, much less ended.

Then, why didn't the Democrats vote them out of existence sometime since
2007? They have had a filibuster proof majority in the Senate and a huge
majority in the House. You continuously point at Repubs, yet you ignore the
Dems who do the same.

Ed

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