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 BK>>>>  Heinlein was wrong about a lot of things. Wrote good SF, but his
 BK>>>> politics were a bit screwed up.

 BA>>> Only to you collectivists.  Heinlein was a big believer in
 BA>>> freedom and INDIVIDUAL liberty.  *You* are not.

 BK>>  That comes under the heading of, "A mile wide but an inch
deep."

 BK>>  It just demonstrates you know nothing about what I believe in.

 BK>>  Pro-lifers believe in a lot of restrictions on individual
 BK>>  freedom. Which means you need to be a democrat.

 BA> Horse sh*t.  I have more intelligence.  Not all pro-lifers
 BA> are Republicrooks and not all Democrooks are pro-choice.

 Gee... you noticed. I've been pointing that out for a long time.

 BA> Besides, there are more choices in the political spectrum
 BA> than Republicrooks and Democrooks.

 None that are significant.

 BK>>  Anti-gays don't have much belief in individual freedom at all.

 BA> ANd your point is, what?  Anti-smokers don't believe in
 BA> individual freedom, nor do the animal rights fanatics and
 BA> PETA.

 As long at they don't try to impose their beliefs on your
 private life, no problem.

 BK>>  I believe in freedom of religion, and freedom from religion,
 BK>>  which puts me one freedom up on the right.

 BK>>  I believe in freedom of speech, even when I don't agree with
 BK>>  what is said, which puts me one freedom up on the Tea Party.

 BK>>  I believe in freedom to live your own life as long at you don't
 BK>>  harm others. That puts me one freedom up on most people.

 BA> You believe in heavily punishing successful people with
 BA> taxes,

 If you believe taxes are punishment, you must be an anarchist,
 or a glutton for punishment.

 BA> you believe in discriminatory ("progressive") tax

 You believe in discriminator (regressive) taxs.

 BA> rates.  You don't believe people should be free to hold a
 BA> job without belonging to or paying dues to a labor
 BA> organization.

 Now you are getting into your inch deep portion. I have posted,
 over and over, if employers treated their employees decently
 labor unions wouldn't even exist.

 And that would be perfectly acceptable. Oh, and every union
 member, including union officers, I have said this to agreed
 with me.

 BK>>  I also believe in a responsibility as part of our social
 BK>>  structure, to contribute to maintaining our social structure.
 BK>>  That seems so obvious it should not require defending.

 BA> That does depend on how one defines those terms, doesn't it?

 Yeah, but first you have to get past the idea that
 responsibility is bad.

 BK>>  I believe the freedom to keep and bear arms requires the
 BK>>  obligation to learn to do so responsibly. Which puts me on two
 BK>>  sides of a freedom, depending on which side you stand on.

 BK>>  If Heinlein really believed in what he appeared to, he could
 BK>>  stand by and watch a child die and not believe anyone was
 BK>>  obligated to do anything.

 BK>>  Libertarianism doesn't seem to believe in much of anything.

 BA> The information is out there.  Reason magazine is one
 BA> source, although it is not sponsored by the party and is
 BA> not a party organ.

 Is Reason Magazine the authority on the subject?

 BK>>  Libertarians seem to believe in whatever is convenient for them.

 BK>>  No thanks, I prefer a moral philosophy based on some actual
 BK>>  principles.

 BA> The Libertarian party is the only one in the country that
 BA> has principles - and lives by them.

 See the tagline.

BOB KLAHN bob.klahn{at}sev.org   http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn

... Libertarianism is the ultimate political philosophy for sociopaths.
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