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to: TIM RICHARDSON
from: BOB KLAHN
date: 2010-11-20 14:12:38
subject: `Reason` condemns Beck

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 TR> This is in accord with traditional Islamic law for
 TR> non-Muslims in an Islamic state, which forbids these
 TR> subject peoples to build new houses of worship or repair
 TR> old ones.

 If that is true, how is the seat of the Patriarch of Orthodox
 Christian faiths in Istanbul, and has been for centuries?

 How is the seat of the Syriac Christian Faith in Syria?

 How has Iraq had Christian churches for centuries?

 And Christians in Bethlehem had it better there before Israel
 took it over.

 TR> One of the Muslims involved in this persecution
 TR> explained: "We are doing this because we want to strike
 TR> fear in the hearts of Christians." This echoes the Koran,
 TR> which commands Muslims to "strike terror into the hearts of
 TR> the enemies of Allah and your enemies" (8:60).

 The Qu'ran may call for Muslims to stike terror into the hearts
 of the enemies of God, but the question is, do you make yourself
 the enemy of God?

 TR> Yet it was with a straight face in 2009 that the Imam
 TR> Hassan Qazwini of the Islamic Center of America in
 TR> Dearborn, Mich., restated a very common assertion of Muslim
 TR> spokesmen in the West: "Most Americans do not know that
 TR> Islam respects Christians and Jews." All too many Muslims,
 TR> in Indonesia and elsewhere, don't seem to know it either.

 He was speaking the literal truth. The Qu'ran specifically
 orders Muslims to respect Christians and Jews.

 A very large percentage of the population of the earth doesn't
 understand the teachings of their own religions.

 TR> Also this week, Afshan Azad, a 21-year-old actress who has
 TR> appeared in several Harry Potter movies as the character
 TR> Padma Patil, fled from her home after she was beaten and,
 TR> according to the U.K.'s Daily Express, "badly bruised" by
 TR> her father and brother -- both Muslims -- for refusing to
 TR> break up with her boyfriend, a Hindu.

 Which is done by Hindus all the time.

 TR> Islamic law forbids
 TR> Muslim women to marry non-Muslim men, and Abdul Azad and
 TR> his son Ashraf were allegedly willing to murder Afshan for
 TR> daring to flout this prohibition.

 No, it actually doesn't. Some local cultures may have such a
 law, but Islam does not. Nor does Christianity, not even the
 Catholic church has such a law.

 TR> Muslim spokesmen in the West routinely deny that honor
 TR> killing has anything to do with Islam,

 Which is true.

 TR> even though over 90% of honor killings worldwide take place
 TR> in an Islamic context,

 How would anyone know? Who reports on Hindu honor killings?

 ...

 TR> Or.....a bumper sticker that says....`Islam: The Religion
 TR> of Love, committed 9\11!'

 Which would be a lie. Now if you said "Wahabism" you would be
 telling the truth.

 TR> Fuck Muslims! Fuck Muslimism! Fuck a bunch of Islam
 TR> apologists! Fuck Mohammad!

 Until you start speaking out against the real source of
 anti-American terror, Wahabi, you are just spreading bigotry,
 and adding fuel to the fire.



BOB KLAHN bob.klahn{at}sev.org   http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn

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