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echo: pol_inc
to: BOB ACKLEY
from: BOB KLAHN
date: 2010-11-19 13:51:10
subject: california propositions,

JM>>>> I know he owns them and can do anything he bloody well pleases in
 JM>>>> them. The question is WHY he bans people for what they
say while at
 JM>>>> the same time falsely claiming to defend freedom of speech.

 BA>>> You're surprised?

 BK>>  He shouldn't be. Freedom of speech still allows for the refusal
 BK>>  to accept speech intended to be harmful.

 BA> On the part of the listener - or reader in this case.

 And on the part of those opening the forum. Enabling damaging
 speech puts the forum moderator in the position of promoting it,
 no matter of how reluctantly.

 BA> That's the equivalent of what I do with nearly all of your
 BA> posts - skip over them without reading. Banning people from

 That has more to do with your inability to respond to any of it,
 or to admit you may be wrong on some things.

 BA> the echo is NOT the same thing, that is the equivalent of
 BA> the government banning speech, in your echoes you are the
 BA> government.

 In your home you are the government. Does that mean you are
 obligated to allow any speech anyone should chose in your home?

 BA> OTOH, in your echoes you are allowed to say anything you
 BA> want.  Have at it.

 You seem to lack any desire to consider the value of having some
 places where honest discourse is recognized as requiring
 responsible conduct. That includes focusing on the issue and not
 attacking the speaker.

 Adhereing to your standards, there would be no place in the
 world someone holding unpopular views can speak without being
 slandered.

 Please explain just how you would achieve one without the other.



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