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 "bluesmama"  wrote:

> mark_sobolewski{at}yahoo.com wrote:
> > When such technology becomes available, most here will agree with
> you.
> > On a philsophical level, many could still quibble about women's
> > abortion choices but men having access to convenient, reliable,
> > comfortable birth control will make that issue largely moot.
>
> They can quibble away. My viewpoint is that whether it's planned or
> unplanned, once a woman is pregnant, it should remain her decision
> whether or not to carry the pregnancy to term, considering that it's
> her body that will be carrying the extra passenger for nine months. I'd
> hope that any woman who was in a committed relationship and considering
> abortion would take her partner's concerns and rights to heart when
> making her decision. If she's not in a committed relationship, I don't
> think the partner has rights in that situation anyway. And I'm sure
> neither of those opinions will be popular here, but that's where some
> of us will just have to disagree.
>
> > That said, what do you think, as a self-proclaimed feminist,
> > about the possibility of many women who had previously
> > only had access to motherhood through "oopsing" remaining
> > childless?  In a very short time, sperm banks will be hit
> > by women who intend to go on state welfare support.
> > What do you think the state will do then?
>
> Deception is deception. Wrong if a woman does it, wrong if a man does
> it. So any woman who intentionally "suprises" a man with paternity is
> being deceitful, and wrong. Even a self-proclaimed feminist can see
> that.
>
> Still, if there is no sperm, there is no oops. Some men don't take
> responsibility for their own deception. I'm not sure why - heat of the
> moment? Seems a silly choice weighed against fatherhood.

The only cases where I think men deceive women are those
who are dishonest about their long term intentions
and pressure women into bed with the promise of
marriage lest an accidental pregnancy occur.

However, this would seem to largely be a problem of
the past back when society was a lot more "old fashioned".
Today, such men can easily find women who are willing
to have sex with fewer up-front expectations.

> As far as the sperm bank/welfare question, I'm not sure if it's
> rhetorical or not. I'm thinking it is, so I'll leave it for the time
> being.

It's not rhetorical: If many women no longer oops
then they may find themselves going to a sperm bank
later.  What do you think will happen in terms
of social consequences and policy?

regards,
Mark Sobolewski


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