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to: Steve Asher
from: Phil Hansford
date: 2004-11-22 10:01:26
subject: Noachide Transform...(Halloween)

> Mulling over Phil Hansford to Steve Asher 20 Nov 2004

> Hi Phil!

>>> 3. Noachides may not observe any religious holidays outside the
>>> rabbinical traditions of Torah -- most especially including such
>>> Christian holidays as X-mas, Easter, Halloween, All Saint's Day, Good
>>> Friday, Ash Wednesday, and probably even the "new
year" (January 1st).
>>> Alien religious holidays are forbidden even under the minimum of the
>>> Noachide code; these are violations of the commandment against
>>> idolatry.

> (snip)

>>> The "Christians" around these parts threw a fit when
it fell on a
>>> Sunday this year.  I believe they think of it more as a Pagan, or
>>> even Satanic, holiday.

>> I would agree, and I suspect that pagans & wiccans would see
it as "their"
>> day. Whether satanists identify with it or not, I don't know. I certainly
>> don't identify with it, but I wouldn't want anyone beheaded for celebrating
>> it, whoever they are.

>> Oh come on... Most Pagans and Wiccans I know are not fond of
>> Halloween.  It is, after all, very insulting to them.  Here in the
>> USA Halloween has become very commercial.  There is nothing
>> spiritual about it.

> Thanks for your perspective; Wikipedia describes Halloween as a day of
> celebration for Wiccans & other modern pagan traditions, but of course
> no one can speak for all Wiccans / pagans (or all Christians / Jews etc).
> Always worth bearing in mind.

>> //Phil//

>> P.S. And yes, I'm a Pagan.  I have been "lurking" here for some
>> time. Drop by my web page, www.mysteria.com to learn more.  Loads
>> of text files about metaphysical and occult topics.

> I will - do you have anything on noachide laws / dominion theology etc?

Nothing about that.  My impression of these groups is they are small and
obscure.  I never heard of this before seeing it mentioned in this echo.
It's interesting, but I think Moslem terrorists are a far greater threat.
(In fact I sometimes wonder if Ben Laden is the anti-christ.)

> Thanks for posting, & I hope you have found "lurking" to
be of some use
> or interest - my initial response to people talking about things like the
> rise of the antichrist (etc) was to dismiss it as rubbish, but over time
> I started to connect the dots for myself, as best as I could.

It's an interesting echo with interesting points of view that bear
watching. (It's also one of the few Fido echos I get get that has regular
traffic in it, grin.)

//Phil//

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