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echo: crossfire
to: Bob Klahn
from: Bob Ackley
date: 2009-05-05 04:13:34
subject: Recession/Depression

Replying to a message of Bob Klahn to Tom Walker:

 BK>>> Yet the cattle farmers have much the same expenses in producing
 BK>>> the beef, no matter what is selling. True feed prices will drop
 BK>>> as the demand drops, but the time delay in adjustment will do
 BK>>> it's damage. And the suppliers face their cost factors just like
 BK>>> the farmer.

 TW>> Actualy FEED prices are WAY up because of the LIBERAL IDIOT
 TW>> decision to make Alcohol out of a FOOD/FEED Crop.

Distiller's grain is used as feed for cattle and hogs.  Look it up.

 BK>  A: The feed companies and energy companies are not liberals, and 
 BK> they jumped into bio-fuel.

 BK>  B: Early on I denounced bio-fuel as in a world where people are
 BK>  going hungry turning food into fuel is immoral.

The claim is also nonsense.  You obviously would prefer that the grain
just rot.

 BK>  I also posted a msg in which I asked how many children have to
 BK>  die to fuel an SUV.

More baloney.  In point of fact much if not most of the grain grown in this
country is used to feed cattle and hogs, not people.

 BK>  C: There was a commentary in the local paper by a bio-fuel
 BK>  company pointing out that food prices jumped far more than fuel
 BK>  production would warrant, and out of sync with bio-fuel
 BK>  diversions. Their point was, the grain companies are using the
 BK>  bio-fuel production as an excuse to raise prices.

 BK>  D: I would not be surprised to find all the above are true.

 BK>>> This country is facing a problem with bad debt now. I see it
 BK>>> getting much worse.

 TW>> AND your Beloved President OBASMA is making the Dept
 TW>> Prolbem FAR worse with his Idiot OUT of Control DEFICIT
 TW>> spending.

 BK>  The bad debt problem is not government debt, but private sector.  And
 BK> if nothing is done, it is likely defaults will grow  drastically.
 BK> It's not the growth in debt, but the loss of  ability to pay it that
 BK> is the danger.

 BK>>> Chrysler is cutting employeement compensation.

 TW>> Glad you bought up Chrysler. For decades the UNION GOIONS
 TW>> have been blaming the POOR quality Chrysler Cars on
 TW>> Management.

 BK>  Which is a valid point. Quality is 100% a management perogative.

It wasn't management that failed to put a nut on the bolt in the brake linkage
of my brand new 1976 Aspen, and it wasn't management that failed to notice
that missing nut in a quality inspection.

 TW>> Well a proposal in the Restructuring of
 TW>> Chrysler, who has been bankrupted by the UNIONS, has the

 BK>  Why not by management? After all, Toyota doesn't pay much less,
 BK>  has full benefits, and has a policy similar to the UAW job bank.

Toyota doesn't have a zillion retired workers, their dependents and/or survivors.

 BK>  The employ American workers. In Japan they are unionized. Why  aren't
 BK> they going broke?

 TW>> UNION getting a 55% Stake in Chrysler. SO they wil have to
 TW>> NOT only Talk the Talk butut wil have to Walk the Walk.
 TW>> Wanna bet they cannot do it and Chrysler Cars wil STILL be
 TW>> CRAP with them in the Driver seat. ---

 BK>  About 10 years ago I did quite a bit of traveling, which
 BK>  involved renting cars or vans. Of all the vans, I found the
 BK>  Dodge Caravan to be the best.

 BK>  The Taurus had a reputation among the top. I drove a lot of ford 
 BK> Escorts, and liked them. Chevy had some nice cars also.

 BK>  The Saturn was supposedly a top brand, so why is GM considering
 BK>  closing it out?

Money.  Plus it's a non-union operation and GM is kowtowing to the UAW -
under government pressure to do so.

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