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echo: herbs-n-such
to: Phil Marlowe
from: Howie Coombe
date: 2003-02-03 18:04:48
subject: GARLIC AGAIN & WELCOME BACK

Dear Phil, in regards to this message to me,.

 > ------GARLIC AGAIN & WELCOME BACK

 >> I've been away for awhile as well.

 > HC> Doing what exactly? if you dont mind my asking

 >  Holidays.


Aha,.

 > Shopping.


Of course,.

 > Preparing.


Indeed, there is a lot of that,.

 > Wrapping.


Paper around presents, and people around things they should not be wrapped around,.

 > Visiting.


Mostly people you dont want to see no doubt,.

 > Relatives.


Some you like, some you loath,.

 > Kiddies.


Ditto,.

 > Babysitting.


For a pathetically small amount,.

 > Making Funny Faces.

Some g, anyway ttfn,.


 > Toboganing. Shovelling Snow. Cooking.       > Helping Others Cook.
Offering Unsolicited Cooking Advice Which Was           > Rejected.
Eating Too Much. Drinking Too Much. Being Grouchy About It All.    > And
More Of That Sort Of Holiday Thing.
 >  
 >> Here are a couple of positive tidbits about garlic,
 >> the first one interesting to anyone with heart problems:
 >  
 >HC> Which includes me,.
 >
 >  What type, may I ask?
 >  
 >> --------------------QUOTING-1-----------------------
 >> -----SUPPLEMENT SUBSTITUTES FOR STATINS
 >  GARLIC, OLIVE OIL, FISH OIL, BENECOL MARGARINE
 >> From: "oldal4865" > sci.med.pharmacy
 >  Subject: Re: Niacin and blood pressure? Date:
 >  
 >> >> How about garlic oil caps? Do they have a
 >  significant effect on
 >  
 >> I attended a Diabetes Training course last
 >  night in which > cholesterol/heart attack issues
 >> were raised.
 >> The CDE quoted reputable medical sources which
 >  asserted that : a. Fish Oil > (minimum 2
 >  gram/day) b. Benecol (taken as the margerine, 3
 >  servings per > day) c. Policosanol (10 - 30
 >  mg/day) are partial replacements for the statins
 >  which some of us cannot take.
 >  
 >> 1. Olive oil is a **given**.  > It is assumed
 >  that folks worried about this matter switch to
 >  olive oil as > their cooking oil immediately.
 >  
 >HC> I know i do when i feel like a diet,.
 >
 >  What types of diet have you tried?
 >  
 >  And did you succeed?
 >  
 >  Or do you simply wing it?
 >  
 >> 2. Their remarks on Garlic as a supplement:
 >  "Shown to be effective in > reducing cholesterol,
 >  LDL, TG and increasing HDL.
 >> Effects may take 4-6 weeks.
 >> Adult daily dose 4-12 mg allicin or 3-10 grams
 >  fresh garlic or one 600-900 > mg tablet.
 >> ===Caution: Heat and acid destroy active
 >  components so enteric-coated > products show
 >  better results"
 >  
 >  3. Benecol is a trade name for a patented
 >> "plant sterol".
 >> It is sold as the margerine (US $4 for 8 oz)
 >  
 >HC> And here we double the price,.
 >
 >> 4. Policosanol is a wax obtained from sugar cane(?).
 >> It is sold in pill form, US $0.22 for 10 mg.
 >  
 >HC> And again here we would double the price,.
 >
 >  Well, the Aussie buck is worth less than the US
 >  buck, as is the Canadian.
 >  
 >> Sorry, no citations given.
 >  
 >HC> Bummer,.
 >
 >  I'm pretty sure fish oil and garlic are accepted
 >  as having more or less valid studies behind
 >  them. The probalem is usually compliance -- much
 >  easier and convenient to pop a pill -- which is
 >  why doctors dont much like this kind of self
 >  medication. Then there's the problem of the
 >  strength of the active component, which may vary
 >  widely with for instance different varieties of
 >  garlic. But I think it works on a long term basis
 >  if you seriously incorporate the substance into
 >  your regular diet. Blood tests and monitoring BP
 >  should show how well it's doing.
 >  
 >  
 > 
 > --- Maximus/2 3.01
 > (1:167/133)

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