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BK>>>> So, tell me about these oppressive taxes. Just which taxes would
BK>>>> that be? A short list would be nice.
BA>>> Income and property taxes for starts, the rates are
BA>>> outrageous.
BK>> I pay something on the order of 10% on income after all is
BK>> figured. How is that so much?
BA> That's just about 2.5 times what the government said would
BA> be the maximum rate when the tax was invented. It's also
BA> much higher than the taxes that sparked the American
BA> Revolution.
It wasn't the amount, but the taxation without representation.
And my income is much higher than when the tax was invented.
BK>> Property taxes? Live somewhere cheaper.
BA> Paying less than a grand in property taxes seems to be the
BA> exception rather than the rule. When I lived in
Then where are your excessive property taxes?
BA> Plattsmouth, over a 29 year period my property taxes went
BA> up over 1,000 percent (from about $80/year to over
BA> $900/year, between 1976 and 2005); this on an 825 square
BA> foot hovel that was built in about 1880 on a lot that
BA> measured 44 x 150 feet (less easements). The tax on the
BA> place is probably over a grand/year today.
A hovel? Then move to Ohio. I pay more than that, but I have a
larger and better house. Except the portion where my computers
are kept, my wife does have something to say about that.
BA> 'Live somewhere cheaper?' Like where, a refrigerator crate
BA> under a bridge?. I was (and remain) single and could live
BA> in an 825 square foot one bedroom, one bathroom house. I
BA> seriously doubt that a family of four could do that, or FTM
BA> even a family of two (note that not all of that 825 square
BA> feet was useable as there was a stairwell on the back
BA> (north) wall, and while it counts as square footage it
BA> wasn't living space).
The problem there is not the taxes are high, but the incomes are
low. I don't know what the state situation there is, but here it
doesn't seem near that bad.
BK>> Those are local or state taxes, and typically dedicated to
BK>> a specific function.
BA>>> Some states have 'personal property taxes' payable each
BA>>> year and applicable to every single thing you own.
BK>> Don't blame the Feds for that. Move to another state.
BA> I did. But the subject was oppressive taxes, not
BA> oppressive federal taxes.
Actually, the Tea parties were aimed at Obama, so it was
federal.
BOB KLAHN bob.klahn{at}sev.org http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn
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