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from: Greg1199{at}yahoo.Com
date: 2005-02-17 21:27:00
subject: Re: What women want is a clear message

suckmysav quoted:

> What women want is a clear message

I have a _very_ clear message for them: Cluck it up amongst yourselves,
ladies!  I don't care if you, your magazines, or your soap operas bash
men, as long as you leave us the hell alone.  But you can't do it.  You
go to Congress, or Parliament, and lobby for yet more legislation that
bends us over on your behalf.  Well we have better things to do than
carry your dead asses.  If you'll call yourselves "strong" and
"independent," then be strong and independent for God's sake.

> JANET ALBRECHTSEN
> February 16, 2005
> NOTE to self: Wednesday: celebrate the right of women to be treated
as equal to
> men; Thursday: cheer for the right for women to be treated
differently; Friday:
> sort through conflicting messages scattered about by modern feminists
on what
> women want.

Just tell them to pick a story and stick with it.  They expect the same
of men, and since they want to be our equals, they should act like our
equals, even if they aren't.  As Shakespeare wrote, "Assume a virtue if
you have it not."

> Some weeks just leave you exhausted. On Wednesday, all the talk was
about equality
> for women in the home. Pru Goward, the federal Sex Discrimination
Commissioner,

Otherwise known as Prude Blowhard, Die Kommissar.

> said we needed a national conversation to drag men back into the
home, to cook,

We need her and her lackeys to walk, en masse, up a plank with no boat.

> clean and care for children and elderly parents. Women are doing a
triple shift,
> said Goward, and this "cold war going on in private time" was
damaging families
> and women's careers. Equality at home is the answer, apparently.
>
> Then, on Thursday, the talk was all about treating women differently
because,
> well, women are different. Unions are trying to secure 12 days'
menstrual leave
> per year for female Toyota workers

wwwWHAT???  Menstrual leave??  They want to stay home from work when
they're on the rag???  If I didn't know better, I'd think you were
having me on, but there is nothing I will put past the modern feminazi.
 It's especially stupid because they aren't asking for enough days to
cover the problem.  Do they only want off on the high-flow days, or
when they have that not-so-fresh feeling?  Or will they use sick leave
to make up the difference?  (Surely not!)

I wonder what the execs at Japan HQ think of this.

[...]
> So what's the problem with women darting between two agendas? Apart
from showing
> the philosophical inconsistency that afflicts feminism -- do we want
to be treated
> equally or differently -- the danger is that going too far down
either route may
> ultimately lead women to places they don't want to go.

How would being treated equally lead you where you don't want to go?
What privileges are you afraid of losing?  The ability to sit on your
ass and call it "unpaid work" while someone else pays the bills?

> Now, Australian men and women are fortunate to have Goward. Tough yet
sensible,
> her call for a national conversation - a new barbecue stopper - to
debate whether
> men are doing enough at home got off to a balanced start.

How is that a matter for any government official to decide, and exactly
what the govt do in response to such a "national conversation?"  Make
sure we're all putting the seat down?

> But just watch as Goward's thoughtful words are drowned out by a
sisterhood
> keen to trot out the simplistic messages of yesteryear.

Sorry.  I can't be bothered to watch or to pay any other sort of
attention, just as I won't be bothered if some government bimbo comes
waddling up to my door and tells me to do more housework.

[...]
> Goward may have uncovered a taboo subject suggesting that some women
do more at
> home because they believe men cannot fold towels the right way (no
folds showing,

Women don't do more work at home, unless all work is done in socks and
on carpet.  Who grooms the yard?  Works on the cars?  Fixes the
plumbing?  Do women strap on their toolbelts and go to it?  Yeah right.


[...]

> work ignores the fact that many mothers with young children do not
want to work
> full-time.

Well it's not much of a picnic for single men either.

> Let me reveal some more secret women's business. Women regularly
gather
> in playgrounds with coffee, cake and children in tow, promising never
to tell the
> menfolk

ie serfs,

> quite how much they enjoy being at home. Many of us have a selfish
need to
> be with children. So if we are going to have a national conversation
about
> inequality, let's not forget why some women refuse to hand over the
reins at home.

None of that is really a secret.  It's more like the elephant in the
living room.  We know it, but God help anyone who acknowledges it in
the presence of women.

> Those pushing too far down the "difference" route have also got it
wrong.
> Demanding menstrual leave is the usual union-driven ambit bid with
unintended
> consequences. Not so long ago, talk about differences invariably
translated into
> women being weak.

And now that you've insisted that we pretend you are strong, you revert
once again to being weak.  What a long way you've come, ..... baby.

[...]



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