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echo: philos
to: DAY BROWN
from: DAVID MARTORANA
date: 1998-01-06 15:18:00
subject: Dark Poetry

 ++> From Day Brown to D. Martorana comments
 ++> on  "Value Measures"
 
 DM>> And simple logic would have it that if you must die, nothing
 DM>> has meaning, unless you play the poetry, or a religion card-
 DM>> ...and that has no justifiable basis ......and so ??????????
 
 DB> Well, spoze your life is a work of art, like a very long movie?
 DB> Well maybe not long enough to suit you, but... nevertheless, I do
 DB> not think you want to judge it by the popularity of the masses,
 DB> who we know to be gullible fools, but rather, something that might
 DB> be pleasing to an experienced, mature, audience.  I spoze God may
 DB> be such a conneiseur, what kind of review would he write?
 
 DB> Job & Oedipus come to mind.  The former was restored to his place
 DB> as if rewarded, the latter died homeless.  The former was to be a
 DB> lesson in faith, the latter a lesson in nobility.  The former lost
 DB> all that he had, was given everything but his family back, and he
 DB> was spozed to be grateful; God sounds like a district judge, who
 DB> could have taken you for every thing you had, and wants you to be
 DB> grateful he only took half.  Yeah. thanks.
 
 DB> Oedipus lost it all because he wanted to keep his integrity.  He
 DB> did, and it was worth it.  Makes for a damn good movie.
 
  Yes we can play roles upon our garden stage ....and we do, some
  in near epic inches.     From Job to Oedipus to Joe the plumber
  we can kid around. Some stop to examine the garden and find the
  borders unclear (or see just shadows on old cave walls). Then some
  also wonder "WHY" ??? The smart ones say "let the Gardener worry
  about the why n' walls............... Yes! .........."Spoze" so!
 
 DB> We don't need to kill god, like the young man rebelling against a
 DB> father, we just need to realize the limits the old boy has, and
 DB> work our will and fulfill our destiny without always measuring it
 DB> against what we think the old boy had done, or done for us.
 
 DB> What would Neitzsche think of the power of man today, did he ever
 DB> dream that we would have the power of nukes to destroy a world? A
 DB> god like power if I ever saw one.  Would he have expected us to
 DB> have the wisdom not to destroy it in a fit of pique?  It was not
 DB> that he thought the Aryans were so good, but that they were not
 DB> as bad as everyone else, which was not saying much.
 
 He did not have to,  but we have jumped a few pegs on the board
 since his ebony insights.  We need NOW consider the free radical,
 fast approaching statistical heavy-power-presence. Science has
 written some dark poetry in leveraging the individual to mega
 distructive status. Granted, the world ends every day for those
 that die ..............that no grandeous collective ending has
 significance for the individual, YET, in the terms you presented-
 >"the power to - the wisdom not to",<     you achieve a seeming
 muddy over-simp of the "WHAT IS" emerging......
 
      ___
     (00)    "SPOZE" The "end of the world" comes every day for
   /"|"\    someones......
    Dave
--- Maximus/2 3.01
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* Origin: America's favorite whine - it's your fault! (1:261/1000)

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