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from: Mark Borgerson mborgerso
date: 2005-02-18 17:27:00
subject: Re: Does this group just complain or is there a plan?

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grizzlieantagonist{at}earthlink.net says...
> On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 11:07:05 -0500, Viking  wrote:
>
> >On 15 Feb 2005 09:26:39 -0800, "charles"
 wrote:
> >
> >>Hi, I'm a new member and, because I am solution-oriented, I am
> >>interested in what the group believes is the solution to all the
> >>faminazis and their control over public opinion?  what do you think
> >>will happen?  Does someone have a practical idea?
> >
> >No, no plan. We just love to complain.
>
>
> As the Beatles said in "Revolution", we'd all love to see the plan.
>
> I know that I would.
>
>
My own proposals for reducing the influence of feminazis looks like
this:

1. If you must get married, wait until you're at least 30 years old.
   If your parents, or your girlfriend's parents have ever been
   divorced,  consider staying single.  Reduce your risk of becoming
   part of the divorce  and child support industries.

2. Read books--or get cable if you must watch TV.  Then you'll have
   alternatives to Oprah and Ray Romano.  Tech-TV and the Military
   Channel will give you something to watch in the daytime.

3. Move to a town west of the Mississipi or south of Virginia with
   a population of less than 50,000 (but avoid all of California
   south of Santa Rosa).   Rednecks repel feminazis!

4. If you want higher education,  consider the physical sciences or
   engineering.   Carefully check the range of non-science courses
   required.  Make sure that you can take "History of Medieval Europe"
   instead of "History of Women in the US".   With the former, you
   can always hope to engage the professor in a debate on the influence
   of the longbow on the decline of the mounted knight.

5.  Find a job where you can be self-employed and work at home.  It's
    the best way to avoid PC office politics.  If possible, start a
    business where at least 90% of your customers are men.  If you're
    in a field where a customer starts a question with "How do you
    feel about..."   and does not end with "adding another 64K of
    flash and a faster processor?", consider  a change in careers.
    (This might be easier to do in a country with nationalized
     health care---health insurance for the self-employed can
     be very expensive in the USA.

6.  If higher education is not in your future,  learn to build or
    fix something.  Then you've got a good chance of making a
    living wage  talking to other men about tools and how things
    work, instead of talking to women about their feeling of
    rejection when their last date didn't call back.

7.  If you are already married and have a teenage son,  learn to discuss
    the differences between "Halo 2"  and "Half-Life
2".   But get
    "Ghost Recon 2" for yourself.  The online players average about
    25 years old, and it doesn't require teenage reflexes--although
    it sometimes helps to have a kid around to do reconnaissance
    by running around and getting shot (at),  a'la Counterstrike.

8.  Don't rely on someone else to prevent unwanted paternity.
    This may get a lot easier if the male pill reaches the
    market in the next few years.


These are not immediate solutions----more like long-term goals for
risk reduction.  These proposals won't work for all men,  but
when you can,  make intelligent choices.  Since I started reading
soc.men,  I've begun to wonder how much feminism subconsciously
influenced me to make some of the choices listed above.


Mark Borgerson



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