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to: Roy Witt
from: Ed Vance
date: 2014-03-08 00:26:00
subject: Re: Resurrected

03-07-14 11:37 Roy Witt wrote to Ed Vance about Resurrected

 RW> {at}MSGID: 
 RW>  Brer Ed Vance wrote to Brer Roy Witt about Re: Resurrected:

 RW>  ----snip----

 EV>> Back then to pass the CW Exam IIRC 65 characters straight had to
 EV>> be written on the paper.

 RW>> 6as5d4d54as65das5d4fad65d4fa5s44f34sd534asf4sdf44s5df454f5s3sa4f

 RW>> But, what did it say?

 EV> IIRC, it was Words not garbage.

 RW> I know, but if you write it down, its going to look like the
 RW> line above, unless you can copy words and not characters. You
 RW> know as well as I that when you jump to warp speed, things go
 RW> by faster than you can write them down. Well, maybe not at
 RW> 13wpm, but you know what I mean.

Brer Roy,

I always Hand Print when I took the CW Test hopeing the FCC Examiner
could read what I scratched on the test paper.
My YF says I should had been a Doctor because no one can read what I
write down, and sometimes if it has been a long while I can't read it
myself.   .... ..

 RW>> I really never aspired to have a EXTRA class license, since
 RW>> there's no advantage to having one if you're not at all
 RW>> interested in using CW ... The only advantage I've found is
 RW>> that you could get a 1x2 or 2x1 call sign, but then after
 RW>> running out of those, they began to issue 2x2 calls, which I
 RW>> already had with my Advanced call - KB6PI...

There wasn't any INCENTATIVE when I took the Amateur Extra exam,
such as getting a preferred type Call Sign.

What I saw on the Extra Class Written test was way above my head and
was about a lot of Ham Radio things that didn't even interest me then.

Such as: Ham TV on the 432 Mc/s Band and OSCAR communications.

Really those Deep Technical Subjects asked on the Extra exam, IMNSHO,
ought to be the privilages Given to the Higher Calss Operators to use,
instead of Polarizing the lower Classe Hams by not allowing General
Class Hams, Conditional Class Hams and Advanced Class Hams to
enjoy QSOing on all the frequencies on all of the Ham Bands with the
Amateur Extra Class Hams so everyone can learn from the Extras about
the more involved Modes the higher Class OPS can use because they know
that kind of stuff.

And Yes I am saying that Amateur Extras should be the ONLY CLASS
ALLOWED TO USE SSB because they know enough to be able to service that
kind of Ham Gear, everbody else Licensed for HF Phone use should still
be using AM.

I have one SSB rig and I have the Service Manual for it, but I've only
used it twice.

Once to install a CW Filter in it, and once to help another Ham
Neutralize the new 6146 he put in his radio which was the same as what
I have.

I used my Heath-Kit VTVM and RF Probe and the Service Manual when we
worked on his rig.

 EV> I checked for my two old call signs on the FCC pages and the search
 EV> comes up empty. I guess the FCC hasn't issued either one of them
 EV> since I became W9ODR.

 RW> Try the callsign database at qrz.com instead. When I enter one
 RW> of my old callsigns there, it takes me to my present callsign
 RW> with the old callsign in (callsign) brackets.

I just tried the FCC site and none of my old calls were shown.

 RW> PS - I just ran your KN4ZIQ callsign thru there and got no
 RW> results. Your previous callsign, WA9WSB does. My first
 RW> callsign, WN6ABE issued in 1970. refers back to my K5RXT call.

I entered my WA9WSB call sign on my W9ODR page when I joined QRZ,
I'd think, is the reason it redirects a search for that old call to my
current call.


 RW> -- snip --

 EV> I knew a Radarman in the Navy frm South Dakota who told me of two
 EV> Hams who both lived one mountain top from the other and tried to blow
 EV> up each others RX by pointing their beam towards them while running
 EV> at Illegal Power levels to out do the other guy. -snip-

 RW> That was a trick that feuding CBers used to use on each other,
 RW> but with the xmtr sitting outside of the other CBers house.
 RW> That doesn't work, btw.

This was two Ham Radio Operators not CBers the Radarman told me about.

 RW> It's better to pin your enemies' antenna coax...

I know of one case of that being done to a Ham that I went to high
school with. It was done to him by two other students.
---snip-
 EV>> In the 1970's or 1980's when I learned that I could exchange my WA9
 EV>> license for a One by Three license without paying anything, I asked
 EV>> the FCC for a 1X3 Call Sign figuring I'd get a K9 call and they gave
 EV>> me the W9 call I have now.

 RW>> Beginning in the 90s sometime, they began to issue 'vanity'
 RW>> calls of your choice. This is how I got licensed as K6RXT and a
 RW>> few years after I moved to Texas, K5RXT was available, so I
 RW>> applied for that one and got it. The former licensee lived in
 RW>> Louisiana and went silent key.

 EV> I'm a cheap LID, if I couldn't have swapped the Call for free I
 EV> wouldn't of done it.

 RW> Waddaya gonna do when it comes time to renew your present call?

I haven't heard any news about License Fees for Amateur Radio Licenses.
I think the FCC did have Fees some time in the past but IIRC the Fees
were discontinued before my ticket came up for renewal.
I'm not really sure about that last sentence, but I can't remember
paying a Fee to the FCC, probably Old Age Syndrome keeps me from
remembering doing it. ???????

 EV> W9ODR was owned by someone in Illinois before it was issued to me.
 EV> I was the Original Owner of my other two Call Signs.

 RW> I guess none of my old call signs are wanted by anyone. They're
 RW> still available.

Same here, I don't know why the FCC hasn't given those calls to someone
by now, I renewed the W9 call 6 years ago, that seems like long enuf
time for them to issue the call to someone who didn't want a Vanity
Call Sign.

IIRC Daryl Stout use to post a message about what Call Areas that all
of the calls were taken.
Why the two calls I had aren't listed in a Search on the FCC and QRZ
pages come up blank says to me that whoever Daryl gets that listing
from doesn't know my two old calls are still missing. ????

But I do appreciate Him, You and Mark posting Ham Radio related
messages to the BBS echos so I can read and learn what's happening.

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