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to: Steve Kemp
from: Alan Hess
date: 2007-12-24 15:02:14
subject: peace me want...ook ook!

Whilst masticating on , Steve Kemp (1:261/1000)
wrote to Alan Hess:


SK> Ummm, it's the initial "invasion" I'm talking about, mostly.

SK> Gee, think about it, someone breaks into your home and kicks your 
SK> ass into the back yard...then they bend over backwards to treat 
SK> you nice? What would YOU do?

What invasion?  The Palestinian mandate was British territory.  It was
decided to give about 23% for a Jewish homeland, and 77% (TransJordan the
major part) for a Palestinian state.  The Arabs refused.

AH>>When do you plan to ask (Trans)Jordan, which sits on the 
AH>>majority of the proposed 1948 Palestinian state, to give 
AH>>that land up?

SK> I was talking of ignoble history. 
SK> I don't know what the solution is right NOW!

I'm talking history.  You want Israel to give up land, so why not Jordan?

SK> I DO think that Israel should start treating the Palestinians 
SK> with a little more respect. That couldn't hurt.

When the Palestinians stop seeking to destroy Israel, that will happen.

AH>>SK>>I'm an Atheist! I could care less about YOUR religion!

AH>>That's "couldn't care less."

SK> I'll accept the correction.
SK> Picking at grammar, and generally accepted colloquialism, isn't 
SK> MY bag though. ;)

That one always annoys me.

AH>>If they shot children for throwing stones, there would be a lot 
AH>>of dead  children.  There aren't. 

SK> I've seen the footage of kids being shot at, and hit, for 
SK> throwing stones at tanks and other armored vehicles. And if such 
SK> was caught on tape...it happened tens of times more often without 
SK> being caught on film.

Have you seen the footage after a kid blows himself up in a restaurant to
take Jewish civilians with him?  They're taught that's a good thing to do.

SK> O.K. Let's take your word for it.
SK> They punish communities by bulldozing homes without trials.

SK> Yeah, that's freedom.

No, it's war.  They don't bulldoze Arab homes in Israel.

AH>>And the territory, 
AH>>like it or not, belongs to Israel 

SK> Yep. And when someone steals your home and boots you and your 
SK> family out it'll be theirs. After all, they won it in a war. ;)

Are you bugging the U.S. government to return the Southwest to Mexico?  Or
Indian land to the Indians?

AH>>Gaza, but Hamas chose to keep attacking Israel, which has 
AH>>the same right as any nation to defend itself.

SK> The fact that the want their land back from invaders isn't a 
SK> reason to attack and fight and to not accept tiny offerings?

They're not fighting Jordan.  Why not?

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