Pat Winstanley wrote:
> In article ,
tamagotchi56{at}yahoo.com
> says...
> > > Do you support one or more persons being legally allowed to cause
> > > another person to be, or continue to be, harmed, against the
wishes of
> > > the person being harmed? If so, why?

http://www.catholicexchange.com/vm/index.asp?vm_id=26&art_id=22987

Actually this is not a correct scenario, as identified above, abortion
places the woman in more risk of her life than pregnancy carried to
full term. Therefore, the arguments should be that a person can choose
to put themselves at more risk of harm to kill a person (accepting, as
you did, that the fetus is a person) who is causing them minor harm,
when the very act of killing said person places the woman at risk of
death 3 times greater than the original position.

That is kinda of like doing crack to quit smoking.



> > Yes, if person A (causing "the harm") was placed by person B (the
one being
> > "harmed") in the quandary of either having to
"harm" person B or
die, then I
> > would support the legality of said scenario.  I believe it is
called
> > self-defense.
> >
>
> In that case a pregnant woman is able to invoke self-defense...
whether
> or not the embryo/foetus is a person... since it is the embryo/foetus

> that is (continually) putting the woman in harms way. The only way
she
> can stop the harm is by separating physically from the enbryo/foetus.

That seperation carries a bigger danger than the pregnancy, this is
where your argument falls apart.

> Oh, and no, she did not make herself pregnant - the embryo made her
> pregnant when it forcibly implanted itself in the wall of her uterus.

> She did not force the embryo into existence either. She had no way to

> force any sperm to merge with any of her ova. If you doubt that,
> consider how a woman who is in a coma (and was in a coma even before
an
> embryo existed) could become pregnant. She, in the coma, cannot do
> *anything* to even control whether or not ovulation occurs, yet she
> could still become pregnant.

Actually a comatose woman would have caused the event, in some way, by
simply ovulating. Of course she has no control of this. The fact is
that the great majority of women who get abortions do actually chose to
become pregnant by doing one of more of the following: Having sex, not
taking birth control. Abstinence is 100% effective and birth control is
like 99.7%.

Abortion, for the most part, is neither a medical tool or used when a
woman is raped. Abortion is simply an easy, lazy way for a woman to end
a pregnancy that they did not have the foresight to prevent. It is a
shame that our society allows this travesty to occur, while we debate
slave reperations. LOL



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