18 May 04 00:55, mark lewis wrote to Roy Witt:


 RW>> 13 May 04 14:08, mark lewis wrote to Jame Clay:

 ml>>> taken care of that by putting in both for the elistin
 ml>>> system... now if he can get stuff working via email again,
 ml>>> we'll be able to test it and see...

 RW>> I've been doing updates with Thom's system via email for the
 RW>> better part of 3 years now, without any problems on Thom's
 RW>> end.

 ml> same here and only that we know of...

If they're no good, you'd get a note that says so.

 RW>> When there seems to be one, he advises me that there's
 RW>> a problem with my updates, and eventually, I figure out what
 RW>> I didn't do right.

 ml> how long would it take you to figure out that having 50 dashes as a
 ml> header line in your rules files was causing them to be truncated?

5ms...

Number one, you don't send rules files in an email, you send them as an
attachment. In netmail, you send the file.

 RW>>  I just recently updated my echoes and had
 RW>> no problems, here or there.

 ml> the only problem i've had recently is the one that started the
 ml> bruhaha with the spammer response code... the one i mention above
 ml> with the dashes has been ongoing for several years... we talked about
 ml> it a few times and then nothing... he's written me and told me that
 ml> my submissions were locking up his system when they haven't changed
 ml> at all in quite a few years and are the same exact files used to do
 ml> the updates via netmail...

If the TITLE of the echo and the password hasn't changed, why bother with
sending the whole thing.

E mail; (plain text, no html)   Netmail

Subject: mod upd                mod upd

MSG Body:

FROM user{at}marklewis.com         FROM zone:net/node
TAG Some_echo                   TAG same
PASS passmedude                 PASS same

Thom's software will take a look at the archived data, update the echo and
send out an update notice to you and the ECHOLIST echo, using the info in
the database. Any info that's in the database on your echo can be updated
as well, if you need to make changes, you don't have to send in the entire
update file.

Add a comod or change the mod;

FROM
TAG
MOD
PASS

Be aware that adding a new moderator as above, will delete the old one. So
if you want to add one and stay one yourself, have two MOD lines.

 ml> i even set up the echolist software on my system and used it to
 ml> submit updates and he said that they were locking up his system and
 ml> to use that software to do the updates...

[....]

 ml> hunh? and then when i've explained more than once that i was using
 ml> the software and had the same files imported into it that had
 ml> been being submitted for years, again, i'm met with silence and
 ml> denial...

Have you tried setting up the robot software and updating your echos with
that software?  If it happens to you, maybe you can figure out what you're
doing that causes it.

It's been a while, but I think this is how you change passwords.

PASS -oldpassword newpassword

 ml>  heck, i've asked for clarification on a few points is the
 ml> help files that he publishes with the echolist and have still not
 ml> gotten any clarification... now if i can just figure out how to get
 ml> my rules files to be saved with their proper filenames, maybe i'll be
 ml> one more step closer to the end of whatever winding twisted trail it
 ml> is that i seem to be wandering on...

Welp. The rules files themselves mean diddley squat to the robot software,
unless they're an open file, as in the body of your email or netmail. Send
them as an attached file and see if that works.

If you don't have the robot software, I do. I'd be glad to send it to you.



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