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> "Grizzlie Antagonist"
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> >>>>>>Why?  Because men desire sex and women don't.
>
> >>>>> Yeah, I've been saying that for years and meeting
resistence from
both
> >>>>> men and women as to the truth of that statement.
>
> >>>>    Men who believe that women don't desire sex need to get some
> >>>> lessons.
>
> >>> Women don't desire sex.
>
> >>    You need lessons. All the women I have known have!
>
> > You need lessons on sociobiology and female duplicity.
>
>     You miss that the demale "duplicity" here is in the pretense they
women
> don't want sex. That is part of the game to shift 100% of the
responsibility
> to men. In that way women can claim that "ALL" heterosexual
relations are
> rape. (See MacKinnon, Bownmiller et al)  If women are TOTALLY and
ABSOLUTELY
> free from any and all responsibility for the sex act and it is 100% male
> driven - therefore ALL heterosexual relations are "RAPE" by
definition.
>
> >>> Feminism would be inconceivable in a world in which they did.
>
> >>    That's feminism's propaganda that they don't. Why? Feminism is a
> >> lesbian cruising ground.
>
> > Yes and no.
>
>     Yes................ And not no..
>
> > It's often a lesbian cruising ground, but it's become mainstreamed to
> > the extent that the vast majority of non-lesbian women are either
> > out-and-out feminists or are disingenuous members of the "I'm not a
> > feminist, but..." crowd who allow open feminists to use them as human
> > shields.
>
>     Guy - women have been playing games with sex since "Eve"
for pete's
> sake. How do you think she got Adam to eat the apple and take the fall for
> it? This all just boys into the female thing; "IT IS ALWAYS ALL MEN'S
> FAULT!"  Somehow someway they  will find a man to blame for everything.
>
> > Women are weak and stupid.  Women really don't have many gifts, other
> > than that of their own unique role in procreation.  So why have they
> > been able to do so much damage in the name of feminism?  And why are
> > there so many male collaborators?
>
>     Women are neither weak nor stupid. They have a great gift for beinig
> able to "train" men and get us to do anything they want us
to do and them
> blame us for doing something they then claim they didn't want us to do. I
> have a long scenario on the subject of how feminists define rape. You make
a
> mistake in the belief that this all starts with modern feminism. It
started
> with Eve. Why are there so many male collaborators? They have the nuclear
> weapon... "Pussy!" With that weapon they can and DO make men
do anything.

Nuclear bomb  haha That's funny but you'll find that nature tends to
equalise things. I'll give you one small example: Men are by nature loners,
females can't stand to be alone and crave male attention. So females even
though most can't even orgasm from sex will do it just to get that male
attention they crave:o)



>
> > Obviously, because women have something that men want that trumps (for
> > now) their other female disadvantages and enables them to use sexual
> > blackmail in order to get it.
>
>     Yes - but to say that women don't want sex is missing the point.
>
> > If women had anything akin to a male sexual drive, this just couldn't
> > happen.  Women would not be able to play sexual blackmail if they had
> > a male-like sexual drive.
>
>     They are stronger and they know how to fight dirty. They are also
> smarter. (At least more cunning.)

Just like small or short men.



>
> > Moreover, if women had anything akin to a male sexual drive, they
> > would not seek to criminalize male sexuality through sexual harassment
> > laws and the like.  Women would not be making war on that which they
> > desired.
>
>     Sure they would. How else would they get a free ride and be able to
> escape the consequences for their actions if they weren't able to always
be
> the victim?  Victim means never having to say you are sorry.
>
> >>>>If you ever took the time to listen to women's
complaints about men is
> >>>>that men ...
>
> >>> only think of only one thing
> >>
> >>    That's the language of the "game" guy. It's how
women "control"
their
> >>pets and attempt to "train" them.......
>
> > Your argument makes no sense.
>
>     It does when you think about it. Sex is a "fame" and women set the
> rules. (The rules are fluid and whatever the woman says they are even
after
> the fact.)
>
> >>>>Women have the capacity for a much greater sex drive
than men. If they
> >>>>don't - then I'd suggest the guy
> >>>>start worrying who is going to take the woman away form him...
>
> >>> Feminism would be inconceivable in a world in which women had a
> >>> capacity anywhere near a man's capacity.
>
> >>Hate to tell you this - you can find when you have the technique to
really
> >>turn on a woman and sustain the "game" they are
VASTLY more sexual than
> >>men,
> >>and you'd find the problem of trying to keep up with them.

Yes it's true they do tend to stay turned on longer.



>
> > Take another look at the subject title of this thread.
>
>     Yeah well that's thanks to the "Kooks" among us, the 12
year olds here
> for sport. So they can feel some testosterone.
>
> > Rape - GENUINE male-on-female rape - would scarcely exist if what you
> > were saying was true, because the men desperate enough to commit rape
> > in the real world wouldn't need to in your imaginary world; these men
> > would have no trouble finding willing female partners DESPERATE for
> > coitus.
>
>     No that's not true. Rapists generally do not comit the act of rape
> because of sexual desperation. To be sure sexuality plays a role, despite
> what radical feminists claim. However the research shows the motivations
for
> rape really have a much broader base and sex is typically a secondary
force.
> It is a reversion to the primitive, it is seeking a target for breeding
that
> lies in the subconscious of many rapists. Look at some videos of mating
> among the great apes and you will see where human sexuality came from.
>
> > Indeed, if your imaginary world was actually a reflection of the real
> > world, then female-on-male rape would be far more common than it is.
>
>     Not really.
>
> > Women would have to rove in gangs and acquire weapons in order to
> > overcome the differences in size and strength between themselves and
> > their male prey in order to SUBDUE their male prey - and then they'd
> > STILL be faced with the problem of forcing a contribution from an
> > unwilling male donor.
>
>     Sorry that is an inaccurate construct.
>
> > But they would do all this and more if they were more sexual than men.
>
>     Not necessarily. Why would they when they make all the rules of "the
> Game" and can change the rules any time they want even long after the game
> is over?
> They can have a great desire for sex, but be smart enough to know men do
too
> and that all they have to do is HINT and they can get ALL THEY WANT...

A lot of this is age dependant.



>
>     Let me TRY to recount an old cartoon on this subject.  This is a strip
> cartoon. A small boy and a small girl. In the first frame the little boy
> walks up to the girl and holds out his hand with a shiney marble in it. He
> says "Look what I have!"  In the next frame, the little girl
is holding
out
> her hand with two shiney marbles in it, and the caption is "Yes but look
> what I have!" The boy is looking a bit frustrated. In the next frame the
boy
> is holding out his band with three marbles in and the caption is; "look at
> what I have"  In the next frame the little girl is holding out her hand
with
> four marbles, and the caption is; "yes but look at what I
have!" The bpy's
> expression is very frustrated. In the next frame the little boy has
dropped
> his pants and is pointing at his penis, and the caption is; "Look at what
I
> have and you don't have one of these!" (With a very proud expression that
he
> had finally besterd her.  In the next frame the little girl has dropped
her
> pants and lifted her skirt and is pointing to her genitals.. The caption
is;
> "Yes, but I have one of these and with this I can get all of those I
want!"
> Maybe you'll get it, maybe you  won't.
>
> > Instead, women criminalize male sexuality and treat all men as rapists.
> > Their obsession with AVOIDING rape is scarcely indicative of
> > greater sexual proclivity.
>
>      It's about POWER and CONTROL guy! Wake up! With one of those they can
> make you do anything they want. If men were a little smarter and women a
> little less in the "union" that game could easily be reversed. The
> "Biological clock" is an effective weapon...
>
> >>Buddy - a good Latina, I am afraid, would kill you!
>
> > Yeah, with a knife.  Good Latinas make up a fair percentage of my
> > clientele as a public defender.  But NONE of them have been charged
> > with rape.  Spousal abuse yes.  Assault and battery yes.  Drug abuse
yes.
> > Burglary yes.  But I have never represented a female of any
> > ethnic background charged with rape.
>
>     They don't have to be charged with rape. Try being married to one. You
> are missing today's headlines. As a PD your offices are probably in
> proximity to the prosecutors. Sit down and ask if such cases gon't get run
> off by the cops or their office. They don't charge because they know a
jury
> would never stop laughing. Just as 99.9999999999999999999% of the people
> don't really see what's so wrong with these female teachers
"breakling in"
> the 12 year old boys.
>
> > And I am not your buddy.
>
>     Okay pal.
>
> >> men who have really seen women's sexuality are afraid of it
>
> > Many men who crossed the Atlantic Ocean were afraid of sailing off the
> > edge of their flat planet and encountering the monsters living
> > underneath it.
>
>     Are you saying sharks aren't real?
>
> >>because they fear they can't measure up, and that
> >>the woman would stray. If we want to cut through all the BS, forget
about
> >>polygamy, polyandry would be common....
>
> > Polyandry WOULD be common?  Why has polyandry NEVER been common?  You
> > can probably count the number of polyandrous societies that have EVER
> > existed over the course of human history on one hand.

NONE ever existed.


  And even THOSE
> > societies, I'm guessing, were probably adaptations to shortages of
> > males due to war or whatever.
>
>     Polyandry IS common dude. Their hysbands just don't know about it. WHY
> on God's green Earth do you think that at least 33% of the kids born in
> America are NOT the biological children of the husband?????????  Some
think
> that may be MUCH higher. Ever see the Montel show where they do paternity
> tests?
> More than half the time the husband is NOT the daddy!
>
> > Why would this be so if women had such voracious sexual appetites that
> > they required the services of several men?  Why has polygamy been so
> > common and polyandry so rare?
>
>     Women don't have the need for formal polyandry they have the best of
all
> worlds as it is. (American women).  Polygamy in reality is appealing to a
> man's desire for variety. In reality is a long gang rape for women. Again
if
> you exmaine it in many of those cases "daddy" isn't the only
one "getting
> it."
>
> >>There are some hidden truths in pornography. Such as a woman having the
> >>capacity to take on one man after
> >>another.
>
> > Capacity has nothing to do with desire.  Obviously, due to the
differences
> > in the nature of the sex act, as they apply to men and as
> > they apply to women, women have greater capacity for engaging in the
sex
> > act, but that's not the same as having greater or even equal
> > desire.  Or close to equal desire.

But they do have a strong unconscious desire to get pregnant and on a
primitive level know that only men can fulfill their needs.



>
>     I think you confuse desire and intent. Women have more self control
than
> men. Women can be more quiet about their extra marital activities.
>
> > If some people have the capacity to work 15 hours a day or more, does
that
> > mean that this is what they DESIRE?
>
>     Bad analogy. If that same person can get the pay for 15 hours yet
> actually work only 30 minutes..........
>
> >>Some men FEAR women's sexuality.
>
> > Well, some men are idiots.  A false rape accusation on the morning after
> > is far more likely to bite them than is the prospect of not
> > being able to keep up.
>
>     That's because women make up the rules of "The Game."
Remember it is
the
> "reasonable women standard" and the "reasonable
woman" is a bitch!

It's whatever the jury decides and MALES sit on juries.




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