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echo: philos
to: WILLIAM ELLIOT
from: PETER FRAZER
date: 1998-01-05 11:13:00
subject: AS YOU THINK

Hi William,
 >PF> Anyway is too much of an addition to say that if a person believes
 >PF> something about something then that believe is real for them? 
 > I'd call this subjective reality.  It has the advantage of not 
 > requiring a consensus as does 'objective' reality.  'As a man 
 > thinkest so he becomes', 'I think therefor I am.'  You can tell 
 > objective reality from subjective reality by the amount of 
 > surreality included.
I wasn't given my own position when I typed that. However I don't think we 
have the ability to grasp objective reality, but only can muster a subjective 
interpretation of it.
Our perceptions of reality are too fluid. Once it was considered impossible 
for humans to fly - "God would have given us wings if we were meant to fly", 
"it's impossible to go to the moon".
If our perceptions of what reality changes then it seems possible that 
reality can not be defined objectively. What is possible at a certain time 
perhaps may be defined.
bye
Peter 
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