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from: `turin` turin_turam{at}yaho
date: 2005-02-20 21:28:00
subject: Re: Bitter Boyscouts Biggies Brag To Get Funds

BSA wrote:
> On 18 Feb 2005 07:31:25 -0800, greg1199{at}yahoo.com wrote in message
> 
>
> >
> >Hyerdahl wrote:
> >> Boy Scout Scandal Hits Home
> >>
> >>
> >> By Brad Taylor
> >>
> >>
> >>  Posted on: January 26, 2005
> >>
> >> The Greater Alabama Boy Scout Council has recently been the target
of
> >> an FBI investigation to determine if the council falsely inflated
> >> membership numbers in order to receive funding. Several events led
up
> >> to this revelation, including attacks from homosexual activists.
> >
> >Oh for God's sake.  With all the evil in the world, can't the
> >homosexual activists of the world find someone better to pursue?
Can't
> >the frigging FBI find someone else to investigate?  Apparently not,
so
> >intead of looking for hidden AQ cells, they go after .... the Boy
> >Scouts, as if it were some paramilitary group conspiring to
vandalize
> >the Lincoln Memorial.
>
> I thought this Dr. Tom Willis who blew the whistle was on the council
> of the Boy Scouts.  Is he a homosexual activist?


No, but Greg is.  He's one of those sheltered little pussies of
pseudo-Americana.  They rely on visible symbolism - such as hokey old
institutions, like the Boy Squirts - in order to prove who they are.
This way they never have to do it themselves, and risk losing
competitively from a level playing field.


Then, of course, they expect the rest of their lives to be all easy
employment and set asides, for being WASP...

"Oh.  You're from Maple Avenue?  I grew up there, too!  Come right on
in..."


> I can see no linkage
> here between homosexuals and inflated memberships other than a vague
> assertion by the author of the article.


I can see one between being sissies and the standard memberships.

That also includes the dorks who support it (especially those who play
with their GayStation2s...)


> >> Having grown up in Alabama, I was a Boy Scout under the Tennessee
> >> Valley Council, part of the Greater Alabama Boy Scout Council.
While
> >I
> >> never excelled in the program in terms of rank, I greatly enjoyed
all
> >> of our activities and rarely missed a camping trip or troop hike.
I
> >
> >They do a lot of good things for boys.  I wonder if this is why
> >feminists and their lackeys pursue it so much.
> >
> >> have fond memories of my scouting experience. Thus, it pains me to
> >see
> >> the program embroiled in this most sordid scandal.
> >
> >And me as well, although this needn't really be a scandal.  See
below.
> >
> >> The scandal is a result of Boy Scout volunteers raising issues
with
> >how
> >> the membership figures are being reported by the central office.
Tom
> >> Willis, a boy scout volunteer, stated that it appeared someone was
> >> listing false members to boost enrollment, because 20 scouts on
the
> >[...]
> >> FBI is investigating because the membership numbers are used to
apply
> >> for federal grants and for United Way funding.
> >
> >Well here's an earth-shattering idea.  If they apply for funding,
and
> >you think they use untoward application methods, deny them funding
and
> >move on!  How hard is that?  Instead you launch an inquisition that
is
> >very obviously driven by politics.
>
> Can't undo what's already been done.  If they supplied false data,
> that's fraud.  If anybody else did it, it would also be fraud.  The
> FBI seems to think it is.


No it wouldn't.  It's in the Bill of Rights, that, "Thou shalt not
prosecute any WASP, anywhere."

....This was to keep government from acting "big".


> >> Trouble has been brewing for the Boy Scouts, ever since they took
a
> >> stand against allowing homosexual scout leaders a few years ago.
My
>
> I can't see any evidence in the article to support this conclusion.
> It smells like somebody is trying to divert attention away from some
> fancy accounting in the GA Boy Scouts.


That's because it's a fucking political agenda.


Insurgent fascist groups like the Boy Scarfs are made up of tribalists
who are barely capable of fitting into classless democracies - let
alone, functioning in them.  They require highly public nationalist
identities which accord them special statuses in their communities in
order to give them the edge they need.  This serves as a defense
against incrimination, as well.

Collusive politics with perks and gimmees are usually inherent to these
societies.  Their "good deeds" are a bunch of shit designed to place
them in the loops of our lives - even if that loop constitutes only
helping old ladies across streets.  The old lady is where it all
starts.  From there, it goes on to building our public institutions, if
they can, and then denying access to who they please and marginalizing
real Americans out of the system.

And, from there also, it's no great mystery as to how and why they do
dirty dishonest shit with public money, why they reply to their critics
by pointing to ikons of themselves, or why they therefore scapegoat
just a few of their own, when it's the whole thing that is corrupt -
systematically.


The same things could be said of other "youth training" groups, like
Junior Achievement.

In JA's case, you simply need to understand the relationship between
corporate politics and nationalism.  Once you see why the business suit
replaces the military uniform, you are then well on your way to
identifying two neo-Hitler Youth groups ...and perhaps others.




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> >Indeed.  Apparently, the following has been added to the Bill of
> >Rights: "Thou shalt not offend any homosexual anywhere."



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