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from: Mark Borgerson mborgerso
date: 2005-02-22 13:52:00
subject: Re: How many times stronger is your average man to your aver

In article , me{at}avengers.co.uk says...
>
> "Tron"  wrote in message
> news:evxSd.9867$IW4.245962{at}news2.e.nsc.no...
> >
> > "Chris Tsao"  skrev i melding
> > news:1109023442.669387.140260{at}z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> > > How many times stronger is the arm-strength of your average
man to your
> > > average woman? In other words, Approximately how many times stronger
> > > are the average man's arms than the average woman's? One, two, two and
> > > a half? Is it as high as three times the amount? Altogether, counting
> > > body-strength, arm-strength leg-strength, what is the difference? In
> > > other words, how much more can a man--on--average lift than a woman?
> > > That is, percentage-wise? TIA.
> >
> >
> > There probably are no data for the average people, mainly, I think,
> because
> > "average people" is not a category.
>
> There certainly is an average category. To use female weight lifters as an
> example is absurd. Most of these "girls" are more like men
in body type and
> weight, not to mention that steroids have made them quite masculine. Take an
> average 20 year old male and female without training and see how many
> pushups or pull ups they can do. Weight shouldn't matter in these exercises.
>

The US Army standard for pushups is 80 for men and 56 for women.
However, pushups are not really a measure of strength.  They just tell
you that the person can lift  a percentage of their body weight.  The
numbers after that are as much a measure of endurance as of strength.

An NFL defensive lineman and a professional jocky may both be able to
do 150 pushups.  Does anyone doubt the bigger man is stronger?


If you have a university library near you that carries the journal
Ergonomics,  try finding this article:


Ergonomics. 1982 Apr;25(4):309-13.
Arm and leg strength compared between young women and men after allowing
for differences in body size and composition.  Hosler WW, Morrow JR Jr.


You should also try scholar.google.com.   You will find such interesting
articles as:

"Age and gender comparisons of muscle strength in 654 women and men aged
20-93 yr"
http://jap.physiology.org/cgi/content/full/83/5/1581

>
> > Below is a link to olympic records in weight lifting; at least there are
> > numbers (body weight and weight lifted). Do some statistics on that
> (weights
> > lifted per unit of body weight), and compare the ratios. With the
> > appropriate deductions, they should probably give an indication for the
> less
> > and less trained classes.
> >
> > http://www.hickoksports.com/history/olweight.shtml
> >
> > T
> >
> >
Mark Borgerson



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