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date: 2005-02-25 09:34:00
subject: The 2005 Home Office rape propaganda.

The Times, and many other newspapers are widely reporting the rape
report from the Home Office, so I thought I'd just read it, to see if
they were exaggerating at all.

http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/rds/pdfs05/hors293.pdf

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I've also put the Time's report on it, below so you can all read both,
and see what a ridiculous bunch of wankers "journalists" are.

Unlike Richard Ford appears to, I've actually read the report, he
completely fails to point out that this report now includes rapes which
weren't previously included.

This broadly fits into two categories....

Get this, the first category is...
Page 46. Where there's no evidence of rape, and the "victim" didn't
file a complaint. They broadly fit the group where rape was suspected,
such as torn clothing, but when the victim was contacted, and able to
explain the circumstances it was clear she'd just fallen over and there
was no rape. This doesn't stop it getting included in the report
though.

Another group consists of where someone else (other than the "victim"
reported that a rape had occurred,) and when the police spoke to
her/him it was clear there hadn't been one.

Finally, it also includes 28 people who went to the police, because
they got blitzed, and woke up remembering nothing. After being examined
at great expense, it was concluded that not only had they not been
raped, they hadn't even had sex.

The report claims that in these three types of incidents, it's unsure
whether the victim would fit into a false allegation category, because
(despite not actually having been raped (and knowing they weren't)
remember) they might be worried that if they did say they were raped
(even though both the police AND them knew for certain they weren't,)
then if they truly were raped at a later date, the courts might think
they were a nutter.

Despite 75% of women openly admitting they committed life changing lies
everyday, only 216 of 2643 cases were considered to be false
allegations. Only two women out of 216 were charged. (1%)
(That's the lunatic who openly took on the Hamiltons, and presumably
someone who falsely accused a judge, MP or policeman. In short, the
ordinary man in the street has NO CHANCE AT ALL of justice from a false
allegation.)

In 21% of the cases, the woman was so blitzed she claimed rape when the
man said she consented, or she couldn't even remember who the man was
she'd fallen on her back for, in short, she was pissed and either
(horny or having fertility troubles with her husband,) and in 2% of
cases there was no realistic chance of prosecution, or put another way,
she was known to be a liar. Or she just was lying and realised it was
wrong to hide her shame from her husband, and dropped the charges. (In
these cases the woman was never prosecuted.) And a load of cases where
the woman bottled when faced with actually having to tell her case to
someone who wasn't going to accept her word as gospel.

There were also a load of cases where women accused the man they were
already sleeping with of raping them. How is that possible?


As for Richard Ford's comments about men trawling bars for women with
rohypnol in their pocket, Search PDF reveals that rohypnol, bar, trawl,
and a whole load of other related comments weren't even in the report.

Further, where drug induced rape was suspected when the woman was
asleep, and the man denied it, forensic evidence proved no sex had
taken place.

Furthermore, several women who reported drug rape, had been found to be
lying about their own alcohol intake, not only that but one had also
lied about drugs too, she'd been high on cannabis.

Richard Ford, the men's movement are nowing checking your ridiculous
unsubstantiated facts, we've had too many lies from feminism. Please
try harder.

Oh! Sex after a meal isn't rape, either, no matter what Harriet
Harmanhater thinks.

Also it says this...
"The BCS confirms that women are most likely to be raped by men they
know, and that a considerable proportion had experienced repeat
incidents by the same perpetrator"

I see, so they just keep on getting raped, and don't do anything about
it.

As for "considerable". What kind of fucking crap is that. If I wrote a
report with any of the words, "considerable", "some",
"a lot", "many",
"not far", "soon" etc. I'd expect to be laughed out of
the building.
This has actually made it to press publication.


So. Bearing in mind at least 216 women were considered to have filed a
false report, 214 of them walked away completely scott free, even
though they were trying to get a man jailed for ten years.

I'm afraid Harriet, there's several things you need to do babe if you
want to change the situation.

1. Firstly, give innocent men justice. Until you do this, I'm going to
find any man accused of rape, innocent on general principle, unless
it's a child; because I simply don't like what society does to men. If
a woman falsely accuses a man of a crime
that would give him ten years, then she should get ten years.
Until you do this, men will simply be less and less enfranchised
with the system, and Harriet, men are the system, women just live
off it.

2. Secondly, quote facts not hysteria. This report is exaggerated lies.
It says there's 47000 rapes, yet can only provide evidence for 600 odd.
How does it know this?

3. Acknowledge that men need sex. Define all laws with this
pre-requisite built in.

You've no problem at all, acknowledging and solving at men's expense,
single mother's need for money being the leeches on society they are.
How about making them have protected sex with single men, in return for
their benefits? This way, men will get release, and men won't be
needing to jump women. We are not inanimate objects, even though you
like to treat us like a leather money holder.

By giving women rights over men when men have no rights at all, you're
simply asking to get raped. Why do you think men buy drinks for women?
Why do they buy houses for women, it's because they want a shag. Take
away the return, and you create a bloody awful mess.

Feminism has created a bloody awful mess.







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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1499525,00.html

Rapes soar as convictions plummet to a record low
By Richard Ford, Home Correspodent



RAPE attacks are increasing rapidly in England and Wales, but the
number of cases that end in a successful prosecution has fallen to a
record low.

According to government figures published yesterday,only one in
eighteen rapes reported to police ends with the suspect being punished,
although government ministers have pledged to increase the number of
convictions.

At the same time an alarming new rape trend is emerging, linked to the
night-time binge-drinking culture in towns and cities across England
and Wales.

According to a study by the Home Office, groups of predatory men are
now targeting drunken women to rape and sexually assault. Jo Lovett,
one of the authors, said: "There are people who are undoubtedly
targeting women who are drunk."

The link between excessive and heavy drinking and rape is now
considered to be much more important and common than sexual attacks
involving the drug Rohypnol.

The rise in sex crime and the link with heavy drinking comes as the
Government faces a general election where it is on the defensive over
the increase in violent crime and drunken behaviour on the streets.

The report, published by the Home Office yesterday, disclosed the
latest rape figures and that some men are now trawling bars looking for
drunk women to rape. It also estimated that the actual number of rapes
in England and Wales is more than four times higher than the 11,700
reported to the police in 2002.

It is the fall in the conviction rate to 5.6 per cent which will cause
most disappointment to the Government, Crown Prosecution Service (CPS)
and police. They have succeeded in encouraging more and more women to
come forward to report rape but still too many cases never get into
court.

With ministers already anxious over the likely consequences of relaxing
the licensing laws to allow round-the-clock drinking, the Government
will be concerned that alchohol is three times more associated with
rape than drugs.

The Home Office report said that it had found "a group of predatory
men who target women when they are drunk, so drunk in a number of cases
that their capacity to consent had to be impaired".

Ms Lovett, a researcher at the London Metropolitan University, said:
"I think it is a pattern of drinking behaviour where a group go to a
bar and offer to buy drinks or get chatting with girls or women and
assume that some kind of sexual activity can be taken for granted.
Alcohol is the lubricant in the process."

The Government has overhauled the sex laws and changed the definition
of consent in rapes cases in the hope that it will increased the
conviction rate. But the law only came into effect last May and there
are no figures available to see if the downward trend is being
reversed.

The report also suggests that many women find it difficult to persuade
police to take their complaint seriously and that others remain
concerned at going into court where they may have to face the alleged
rapist and relive the ordeal.

The report found that only 14 per cent of cases reached the trial
stage, with the highest proportion of cases dropping out of the
criminal justice system at an early stage.

The study tracked 3,500 rape cases through the courts and interviewed
228 rape victims. It found that police and the CPS overestimated the
number of false allegations which feed into a "culture of
scepticism" about rape complaints.

In some cases police and the CPS put emphasis only on the discrediting
features of allegations. The study said that there remained a belief
among some people working in the criminal justice system that many
complaints were false, with victims blamed for risk-taking.



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