-=> Quoting F R Kelly to Joe Bryant <=-

 JB>BS> belittle myself and try to fool people?? Both Clinton and Gore are
 JB>BS> idiots and are heading this country into Socialism. We fought too
 JB>BS> many wars to get countries to change from socialism to have it grow
 JB>BS> up here.
 JB>
 JB>And I suppose that if by some quirk of fate Mr Perot was elected you 
 JB>would expect us to blindly follow whatever path he chose to take because 
 JB>you agree with it.
 FRK> 
 FRK> People need a little more education about sociology. 
 FRK> 
 FRK> All societies are "socialist". Without "socialism" there would be no
 FRK> civilization. It is not "every man for themselves" which builds
 FRK> civilizations, but socialism. 
 FRK> The "every man for themselves" mentality is not the law of society or
 FRK> civilization, but the law of the jungle and anarchy. 
 FRK> Over the course of history, mankind has learned that governments must
 FRK> walk a fine line between too much government involvment and not
 FRK> enough. When there is not enough control by government occurs,
 FRK> lawlessness breaks out. When too much occurs, revolution eventually
 FRK> breaks out.  
 FRK> Most governments have seen that it is in the best interest of society
 FRK> to provide for the basic needs of the people because hungry people are
 FRK> notoriously difficult to control. This is why in most "socialist"
 FRK> nations, the government either directly, or through price controls,
 FRK> indirectly controls the food, water, energy, and shelter production,
 FRK> distribution, or both.  
 FRK> Some nations have included health care as a government mandate.
 FRK> Personally, I think that people do have a right to health care and I
 FRK> believe that something needs to be done about the current situation in
 FRK> this nation. 
 FRK> In this town there are only a few pharmacies that will fill the
 FRK> prescriptions for people who are on medicaide. This is legal. It is
 FRK> legal for all of the other pharmacies to discriminate against the
 FRK> poor. This is not right. There are few doctors that will take
 FRK> medicaide patients. Once again, discrimination. This policy forces the
 FRK> poor onto government supported hospitals where the hospitals in turn,
 FRK> pass on the cost to their insured patients. 
 FRK> To correct this, all that is needed is a law that prevents any
 FRK> business from providing their services to medicaide or medicare
 FRK> patients. 
 FRK> When your child is sick, you are going to get the kid some help
 FRK> whether you have insurance or not. This is reality. If it means
 FRK> holding up the convienience store down the street to get the money for
 FRK> the kids prescription, then that's what will be done.  
 FRK> If people chose not to believe this, they are deluding themselves. As
 FRK> Perochio likes to say, "it's that simple." 

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        Exactly.  People need to listen with their own minds instead of
regurgitating everything that comes out of Limbaugh's mouth.  Democracy,
ideally, resembles socialism on the personal level.  I get pissed everytime I
hear some flag-waving McCarthy-ist telling us socialism=evil.  It's even more
frustrating when they confuse national health care with socialism.
        As for the criticism of Clinton and Gore, people need to give them a
bit
more respect for the precarious ground they tread.  They're moderates, and no
one is going to be fully satisfied with them.  I'm liberal as hell, and I'm
not
satisfied with Clinton.  At least Clinton isn't sided with socialist support
of
businesses, like George and Ronnie.

... Outside noisy, inside empty.
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