_TR_ wrote:
> bluesmama wrote:
> >
> > I think if a man behaves in a chivalrous fashion and is taken
advantage
> > of, he's complicit in his own disadvantaged position, and must take
> > some of the responsibility for it. But then I also think that a
woman
> > who "finds" herself in an abusive relationship is choosing that
> > relationship for subconscious reasons she may or may not be aware
of.
> > And if she stays, she is making a choice to do so. For which she is
> > responsible. And that's not a common feminist opinion, but some of
us
> > do hold it, regardless. That's because feminists truly are a varied
> > lot, as much as the stereotype of the radical feminist gets such
good -
> > or bad - press.
>
> Then feminism means nothing.
>
> You are engaging in a worn-out tactic:  redefine feminism to suit the
> moment.  Don't hold feminism to a firm doctrine; then those who
adhere to
> the cult might become responsible for their (mis)behaviour.
>
> This tactic is used as misdirection.  It is an artifact of the trait
that
> links ALL feminists, radical or whatever variety:  it is dishonest.
>
> >
> > I also think that if a man - or a woman - consistently acts in such
a
> > way that their physical, emotional, psychological well-being is
> > compromised, is making a choice to do so, and if that's what a
sucker
> > is, then I guess my answer to the question is a qualified "yes".
>
>
> TR  II

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