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echo: osdebate
to: Geo.
from: Antti Kurenniemi
date: 2007-02-17 07:15:42
subject: Re: where the hell is my global warming?

From: "Antti Kurenniemi" 

"Geo."  wrote in message
news:45d674a3$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> No. But at least they've tried. Are you saying we shouldn't even even
>> try? Fuck it all, let's not do anything because they all just hate the
>> USA?
>
> That's not the attitude. What makes americans negative is the talk about
> carbon footprints and selling the right to release co2 as a way to control
> co2 levels. We all know this is just a way to extort money.
>
> Few years ago we went thru the freon thing, they told us freon 11 and 12
> was causing a hole in the ozone so we needed to switch to the far more
> expensive R134 which could only be purchased from Dow Chemical. Cost us a
> freeking fortune, made air conditioners giant less efficient and far more
> expensive compared to what we had before. Turns out while the US public
> and business had to make this switch the government here writes the laws
> so they didn't have to switch and in canada everyone can still use freon
> 11 and 12. We bent over and they stuck it to us.
>
> So this time around, if you want to curb co2 emissions then we want
> everyone to contribute, you want the US public and business to reduce
> output by X%, fine, everyone reduce output by X%, no exceptions. And if
> everyone really is serious about doing something, perhaps we should also
> be pushing co2 conversion via forest area and such, which means that
> places that are cutting down trees get counted as producing co2 since that
> is going to be the net result.
>
> Sorry, but that's really the attitude here, we are gun shy after the freon
> thing.

So why constantly piss on european countries, we've ditched freon ages ago.
I did some a/c work myself as a summer job when I was 15 or 16, changing
old freon based units to newer ones. We're also reducing co2 emissions all
the time or at least working very hard at it, so why make fun of us all the
time? That's just boring. Why not stop the whining and get over it?


Antti Kurenniemi

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