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from: Rich
date: 2007-02-21 07:41:06
subject: Re: Legacy setup program behavior

From: "Rich" 

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   I don't know anything about the decision process but as I mentioned =
before I suspect it is app compat especially because it is for rarely =
executed setup programs only.  If there were an option to run without =
elevation then it is both more complicated because the user who likely =
has no knowledge of what is required now has three choices.  The two =
choices are simple, run or don't run.  Now even if they trust the =
application they must choose between two different forms of run.  Worse, =
running without elevation may appear to succeed but actually fail =
silently.

   Also, this is legacy only behavior.  Any new setup program should =
declare its behavior, again as I described before.

Rich

  "John Beckett"  wrote in message =
news:dgunt29k3n9e2jo4scit8eq83tl7066rps{at}4ax.com...


  Anyway, the above is all peripheral. I'm still curious about whether =
Vista
  really does allow only "don't run" and "run with full
privilege" on an =
exe
  that it determines is a setup program (presumably a downlevel setup
  program).

  John

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   I don't
know anything =
about the=20
decision process but as I mentioned before I suspect it is app compat = especially=20
because it is for rarely executed setup programs only.  If there =
were an=20
option to run without elevation then it is both more complicated because = the=20
user who likely has no knowledge of what is required now has three=20
choices.  The two choices are simple, run or don't run. 
Now = even if=20
they trust the application they must choose between two different forms = of=20
run.  Worse, running without elevation may appear to succeed but =
actually=20
fail silently.
 
   Also,
this is legacy only=20
behavior.  Any new setup program should declare its behavior,
again = as I=20
described before.
 
Rich
 

  "John Beckett" <johnXsecondary{at}tpgXcomXau&g=">mailto:johnXsecondary{at}tpgXcomXau">johnXsecondary{at}tpgXcomXau&g=
t;=20
  wrote in message news:dgunt29k3n9=
e2jo4scit8eq83tl7066rps{at}4ax.com...Anyway,=20
  the above is all peripheral. I'm still curious about whether =
Vistareally=20
  does allow only "don't run" and "run with full
privilege" on an =
exethat it=20
  determines is a setup program (presumably a downlevel=20
 
setupprogram).John

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