Dave Symn wrote:
> On 31 Mar 2005 16:13:40 -0800, Hyerdahl wrote:
>
> > bluesmama wrote:
> >> Hyerdahl wrote:
> >>> bluesmama wrote:
> >>> > howldog wrote:
> >>> > > Sandra Bullock to Matt Laurer this morning:
> >>> > >
> >>> > > "I needed you to play a guy who was man
enough to let a woman
> >> beat
> >>> > him > up".
> >>> > >
> >>> > > gag. no more of your movies, ever, Sandra.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Shame on you.
> >>> >
> >>> > What a truly disrespectful thing to say.
> >>>
> >>> Why?  She was talking about the other male actors in the film she
> >> just>> made where she and another actress play FBI
folks.  I don't
see
> > where>> Bullock was inciting violence against men.  Are you also
against
> >> films where male FBI agents end up killing or beating up women
criminals, or> are you only offended when a woman beats up a man in
films?
> Because>> most films out there are about male violence on women and
other
> > men.
> >>
> >> Not inciting violence, just minimizing the injustice of it. I'm
> > against
> >> all sorts of depictions of violence in film. Just because there
are a
> >> lot of depictions of male on female violence in film doesn't make
it
> >> right to minimize female on male violence. It's just _another_
kind
> > of
> >> wrong.
> >
> > I think it is important to consider a few things here.  First,
women
> > didn't sponsor violence against men or even the idea of it until
we've
> > had centuries of violence against women and jokes about such.  The
> > amount of violence against women is one hundred fold as compared to
> > violence about men.  In that regard, I see no reason to tell women
to
> > stop.  Sometimes backfires are just what's needed to fight forrest
> > fires.
> >
> >>
> >>> > Another name to add to the list beside Jennifer Lopez.
> >>>
> >>> What did she do?  She did provide a film where  a woman could
> > defend
> >>> herself against an abusive asshole.
> >>
> >> Defend is one thing. And don't start going on about abusive
assholes,
> > I
> >> know them well enough, thanks. Say what you like, someone beating
up
> >> someone else is just wrong, however you try to justify it.
> >
> > I'm not justifying it;  I'm saying it's the same thing men do every
day
> > of the week.
>
>
> thats not justifying it? its certainly excusing it.


It's not justifying or excusing it;  it's really a matter of not
noticing it at all, the same way we lack notice of male humor about
violence against women.



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