"Strabo"  wrote in message
news:82mp415j01ct7onee7kh762n7kkiaq3h1a{at}4ax.com...
> In Re: There is NO FREEDOM Without Free Speech on Wed, 30 Mar
> 2005 16:00:37 GMT, by Gunner, we read:
>
> >On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 20:25:46 -0600, "SaPeIsMa"

> >wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>"Johnny Bravo"  wrote in message
> >>news:2r5i419c6p26eijp3av1g8a3i7710iogus{at}4ax.com...
> >>> On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 11:47:43 +0200, "D.E."
 wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>I am not allowed to air my views with a bullhorn at 3
at night, not
> >>>>because I amnot allowed my views but because people
are sleeping.
> >>>
> >>>  Then that is a restriction on free speech.
> >>>
> >>
> >>Nope.
> >>It's a restriction on your right to bother your neighbors at 3 AM with a
> >>bullhorn.
> >>That has nothing to do with free speech.
> >>
> >>
> >>> "any restriction of speech is an affront to human
dignity and is
> >>> completely incompatible with basic human freedoms"
> >>>
> >>>  Why are you against basic human freedoms?
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >While a persons right to free speech is unquestioned, one tends to
> >forget that ones rights to ignore or not be forced to listen is
> >equally valid.
> >
> >If at 3am, you choose to walk through the neighborhood with a bullhorn
> >and quote verses from Maos Little Red Book, feel free. However, if I
> >choose not to listen to it, and your soundwaves enter my property, I
> >will indeed take steps to make sure those soundwaves are not forced on
> >me.
> >
> >Those steps may involve blunt trauma or objects flying at many
> >thousands of feet a second.
> >
> >You forcing me to listen, is a very very strong abrogation of my
> >rights and indeed...it will be resisted.
> >
> >Gunner
>
> Likewise when the photons from an evil glare, the "dirty look",
> enter your property, your rights are violated?
>
> There are also those that believe that "verbal abuse" and
> certain "thoughts" constitute crimes.
>
> No Gunner.
>
> No one forces you to listen or to look. Ordinary sound waves,
> photons and mental telepathy don't count. Only a bodily presence,
> the potential for physical dislocation, OR a projection
> sufficient to cause physical damage to your person, is a
> measurable violation. The "reasonable man" judgement holds
> here. For example, a microwave or LASAR beam might be considered
> a danger.
>
> You have the right to act but not a right to prevent
> another's actions.
>
>
Actually, he has.

-*MORT*-




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