USA (no{at}thanks.com) writes:
> On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 00:10:10 -0800, "Society"
>  wrote:
> 
>> wrote in message 
>>news:1112231042.944302.187070{at}z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>> Society wrote:
>>>>
>>>> [Among other swerves] into unreality Michael C.
>>>> Morris takes in this article is his "we also need
>>>> everyone... to" blah blah blah plea.  Feminism is a
>>>> political movement born of a fascist demand that
>>>> everyone conform to its demands. [...]
>>> 
>>>
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050330/ap_on_re_as/laura_bush_afghanistan
>>>
>>>   "KABUL, Afghanistan - Inspired by Afghan women
>>>   who have boldly shed their burqas after years of
>>>   Taliban repression, Laura Bush urged more
>>>   educational opportunities and greater rights
>>>   for women
>>
>>...but none for men...
>>
>>>   Wednesday in this war-wrecked nation."
>>>
>>> v curious -- distribution of feminism around
>>> the planet by this neoconservative cabal [...]
>>
>>"Neoconservative", ooh!  >and wiggles fingers>  "Neoconservative" is
>>just left liberal* code for "International Jewish
>>Conspiracy/Zionist Occupied Government".
> 
> Say it isn't so!  That sounds so insensitive and judgmental and angry.
> The liberals tell us all the time that they are never, never any of
> those things. They want nothing but more "diversity" in the world but
> only so long as those diverse people agree with them.  

Well, just as Karl Rove doesn't represent all " conservatives ", I dare
say that John Kerry didn't represent all " liberals ".

Now, I happen to be a " liberal " of sorts... The 19th Century kind,
who believes in personal responsibility, as well as a public sector,
where the powers of private capital can be... mitigated. 

In that, I rather like much, though certainly not all, of what we
have up here. I dare say that most of the fine regulars here from
the States would say similar about the feminised parts of their
republic. 

And, my core question on this issue, is a simple one:

What have the present set of US " conservatives " accomplished
towards men's rights, and towards men being given practical and
assured equal rights ? Thats a serious question, folks, I'm not
prejudging. I am well aware that many such areas of endeavour
don't make it to the view of the pop media, so I cannot bet that
I will hear of any such endeavours from that source.

So, I ask, in the last five years, what have those in charge 
of the US federal gov't done for men ? 

>>IMO, Laura Bush travelled to Afghanistan so she
>>could wear outfits considered racy without any
>>change to her wardrobe.  ;-)
> 
> I don't believe her motives were as innocent or frivolous as even
> that.  She should IMO drop the cheerleading for girls stuff and devote
> more time to promoting two parent heterosexual families like the ones
> she and George and their daughters grew up in if she needs to take up
> a "cause." 

Agreed.

> 
>>
>>NOTE:
>>   * "liberal" in the US refers to someone who
>>    is "illiberal".
> 
> If a rose is a rose is a rose then it is equally true that a liberal
> by any other name (like "progressive") is still a plain old socialist.

Nope. Not this one ( And, if anyone wants to try me on, read my back
posts against gay " marriage "... Hardly anything that meets the modern
caricature of " liberalism "...  ).

Andre

 


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" I'm a man... But, I can change... If I have to... I guess. "
                                    The Man Prayer, Red Green.


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