(stanfieldsarah{at}yahoo.com) writes:
> "Men define men. Period"
>
> And if men disagree, what then?

Then, those men will argue and decide. Women need not apply.

> Seems pretty arbitrary to me.

Actually, its very consistant. Both ways. We men may discuss
women, and share our views of them, but women will define women,
and men will define men.

> But since we are being arbitrary then for soc.men it appears that
> two groups define what a man is. Competitors and suitors.

Nope.

> I would say that they would be defined by competitors because
> competitors would only have respect for what they would consider "a
> man" and suitors because suitors would only choose a man they thought
> desirable.

The term " mate " is NOT a synonym for " man ".

Please retake your English course, and, this time... *pass* it.

> There of course would also be the third more philosophical group but
> that discussion has never taken with this web-log.

This is a Usenet newsgroup. So, you're wrong... again.

Perfect score, I'd say: AbZero.

Andre



--
" I'm a man... But, I can change... If I have to... I guess. "
                                    The Man Prayer, Red Green.


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