On 1 Apr 2005 12:30:56 -0800, Hyerdahl wrote:

> Dave Symn wrote:
>> On 31 Mar 2005 16:13:40 -0800, Hyerdahl wrote:
>>
>>> bluesmama wrote:
>>>> Hyerdahl wrote:
>>>>> bluesmama wrote:
>>>>> > howldog wrote:
>>>>> > > Sandra Bullock to Matt Laurer this morning:
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > "I needed you to play a guy who was man
enough to let a woman
>>>> beat
>>>>> > him > up".
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > gag. no more of your movies, ever, Sandra.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Shame on you.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > What a truly disrespectful thing to say.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why?  She was talking about the other male actors in
the film she
>>>> just>> made where she and another actress play FBI
folks.  I don't
> see
>>> where>> Bullock was inciting violence against men.  Are you also
> against
>>>> films where male FBI agents end up killing or beating up women
> criminals, or> are you only offended when a woman beats up a man in
> films?
>> Because>> most films out there are about male violence on women and
> other
>>> men.
>>>>
>>>> Not inciting violence, just minimizing the injustice of it. I'm
>>> against
>>>> all sorts of depictions of violence in film. Just because there
> are a
>>>> lot of depictions of male on female violence in film doesn't make
> it
>>>> right to minimize female on male violence. It's just _another_
> kind
>>> of
>>>> wrong.
>>>
>>> I think it is important to consider a few things here.  First,
> women
>>> didn't sponsor violence against men or even the idea of it until
> we've
>>> had centuries of violence against women and jokes about such.  The
>>> amount of violence against women is one hundred fold as compared to
>>> violence about men.  In that regard, I see no reason to tell women
> to
>>> stop.  Sometimes backfires are just what's needed to fight forrest
>>> fires.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> > Another name to add to the list beside Jennifer Lopez.
>>>>>
>>>>> What did she do?  She did provide a film where  a woman could
>>> defend
>>>>> herself against an abusive asshole.
>>>>
>>>> Defend is one thing. And don't start going on about abusive
> assholes,
>>> I
>>>> know them well enough, thanks. Say what you like, someone beating
> up
>>>> someone else is just wrong, however you try to justify it.
>>>
>>> I'm not justifying it;  I'm saying it's the same thing men do every
> day
>>> of the week.
>>
>>
>> thats not justifying it? its certainly excusing it.
>
>
> It's not justifying or excusing it;



It most certainly is. Its patented blame-denial and excusal in a classic
sense... "i'm not bad because someone else is worse"


> it's really a matter of not
> noticing it at all, the same way we lack notice of male humor about
> violence against women.


"lack notice"?

that some fine writing there Parginian.

the above is probly one of the finer examples of your vapid double-speak;
you have argued yourself into a circle and cant figure a way out, so you
ramble incoherently.

Have a nice weekend.




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