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from: Strabo strabo{at}flashlight
date: 2005-04-01 16:48:00
subject: Re: There is NO FREEDOM Without Free Speech

In Re: There is NO FREEDOM Without Free Speech on Fri, 01 Apr
2005 08:41:30 GMT, by Gunner, we read:

>On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 05:32:09 GMT, Strabo 
>wrote:
>
>>>
>>>You forcing me to listen, is a very very strong abrogation of my
>>>rights and indeed...it will be resisted.
>>>
>>>Gunner
>>
>>Likewise when the photons from an evil glare, the "dirty look",
>>enter your property, your rights are violated?
>>
>>There are also those that believe that "verbal abuse" and
>>certain "thoughts" constitute crimes.
>>
>>No Gunner.
>>
>>No one forces you to listen or to look. Ordinary sound waves,
>>photons and mental telepathy don't count. Only a bodily presence,
>>the potential for physical dislocation, OR a projection
>>sufficient to cause physical damage to your person, is a
>>measurable violation. The "reasonable man" judgement holds
>>here. For example, a microwave or LASAR beam might be considered
>>a danger.
>
>a bullhorn at 3am is a danger. To the user.

A bullhorn at 3am can be a danger. I know that loud
moise and low frequency sound is inflammatory and dangerous
but we should use ordinary ordinances against public
disturbances to squelch it.

Of course if all else fails...


>>You have the right to act but not a right to prevent
>>another's actions.
>
>Care to prove the point?   Be sure to prepare your own toe tag.



>Gunner
>
>
>Rule #35
>"That which does not kill you,
> has made a huge tactical error"



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