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from: Dustbin dustbin_address{at}
date: 2005-03-31 20:50:00
subject: Re: Debunking Feminist MYTHS about UK DV Stats.

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> still be
>
> valid, they looked only at men as perpetrators. If the linkage between
> partner and
>
> child abuse is true then we should expect violence by mothers and women (who
>
> commit over 60 % of all child abuse) not only to deeply affect children but
> reflect the
>
> level of assaults against men.
>
> 33. Many women don't report incidents of domestic violence. It is far more
>
> prevalent that the reported figures to the police would suggest
>
> This is almost true - While it is true that some women do not report
> domestic
>
> violence it is almost always overlooked that far more men are reluctant to
> report being
>
> a victims of domestic violence. Figures from around the world show that
> women are
>
> between 5 and 9 times more likely to report an incident of domestic violence
> than
>
> men, ie men are 5 - 9 times less likely
>
> 34. Men don't need refuges because they can look after themselves - they are
>
> simply not needed
>
> Not true - The usual scenario is that the man is forced or legally obliged
> to move out
>
> of his own home. The authorities see his removal as easier with less pain
> than
>
> removing the women / mother. The courses of action then open to him are
> minimal. If
>
> he were a woman he would qualify for many more options available from
> charitable
>
> and local authority sources. Basically, his options are; the park bench, a
> friend's
>
> house, the Salvation Army or bed and breakfast. And because he will probably
> be in
>
> employment some of those options may by difficult to obtain.
>
> Presently refuges for men are to be found in Sweden, America, Spain, Eire
> and
>
> Canada.
>
> 35. Refuges for men have been tried before and have failed for lack of
> clients
>
> This is almost true - One man, frustrated by the inert of institutions and
> local
>
> authorities, allegedly opened a refuge for battered men because no support
> services or
>
> funding was available. It duly received widespread press coverage - as it
> was intended
>
> to do. However, the local council took exception to his opening his own home
> and
>
> fitting it out with several bunk beds and ordered it closed down the
> following week.
>
> 36. Domestic violence sets up an accepted pattern of behaviour that
> reemerges
>
> in the next generation's life
>
> This is almost true - The jury is still out on this issue and so the verdict
> has yet to be
>
> decided. What is clear is that some reports state that there is a
> correlation and that it is
>
> significant. However, other reports say there is a marginal correlation but
> it is not
>
> significant and not an unavoidable predetermining factor. The latter
> assertion may
>
> prove to be more accurate. Adults who have witnessed DV as children are
> likely to
>
> seek to avoid it in their relationships. Equally, an argument can be made
> out that
>
> socio-economic factors and/or IQ levels can give rise to its repetitions as
> a norm in
>
> the next generation.
>
> 37. Not enough money is spent on domestic violence initiatives
>
> Not true - Apart from the £250m of funding earmarked in 1998 for the Crime
>
> Reduction Programme to lower domestic violence against women, the Gov't
> released
>
> another document in June 1999 entitled "Living without
Fear". This document
>
> together with "Breaking the Chain" outlined a further £6 million, plus
> £6.3million,
>
> and a further £14m of government and near-gov't money. These sums were to be
>
> made available for schemes to combat violence against women.
>
> There was no mention of funding for male victims. Enquires at the Home
> Office
>
> revealed that they were unable to allocate any funds for men because in 1998
> their
>
> remit was only to consider female victims. In April 1999 Miss. Jeshran of
> the
>
> Criminal Policy Strategy Unit at the Home Office assured men's and fathers
> that
>
> "Breaking the Chain" was an ".. example of measures
that are gender neutral
> and
>
> designed to be helpful to both men and women."
>
> Page made by webmaster ManKind Initiative.
>
>


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