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from: `avenger` me{at}avengers.Co
date: 2005-04-01 01:04:00
subject: Re: Women Don`t Need To Sacrifice Themselves And Men should

"Hyerdahl"  wrote in message
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>
> mark_sobolewski{at}yahoo.com wrote:
> > Hyerdahl wrote:
> > > Mark Sobolewski wrote:
> >
> > > > I think women increasingly are working more and more as
> > > > social safety nets crash down in the United States
> > > > and even in Europe.
> > >
> > > I think all people are working more and more during reigns of
> terror
> > > designed to oppress the poor and mid-class make the rich richer.
> >
> > As Barry Goldwater put it: The same government that
> > can give you everything you want is the same one
> > that can take it all away.
> >
> Govt. hasn't the power to give or take away "everything"; they can
> certainly create havoc during their reign however.  You seem to be
> striving for less govt. and I'm ok with that, as it effects spending.
> I'm NOT ok with it when it comes to civil rights.

Governments can do anything they like and have Courts uphold it. It's all
about power and females only have the illusion of power because they are
under the protection of MEN. Anytime we men choose to pull the carpet out
from under you we can so I suggest you behave yourself and not irritate us
:o)))



>
>
> > This is a wonderful example of my point that for every
> > single goodie the gimmie-gals got, they usually had
> > to make a hidden concession elsewhere.  In a way,
> > that's equality don't you think? :-)
> >
> Not really, men are having the same things taken away, so it's not
> really about women, here.
>
> > (edit)
>
> > > > Women got special political victim status, but to achieve it,
> > > > racial minorities were needed to build a coalition resulting
> > > > in racial violence in the states that women are >
always in fear
> of
> > > (check out most inner city office complexes in the US and see how
> > many women walk around past dusk...)
> > > >
> > > It is well known and historically acknowledged that women face
> > rampant > invideous discrimination,
> >
> > Yes, it's clear from all the preferences women have in education
> > resulting in their higher enrollment rates than men and
> > all the money they get in family court and lower sentencing
> > in criminal court how invideous this discrimination is... :-)
> >
>> > >
> >  .
> >
> > Agreed.  But women feel a stronger emotional impact in the

Females are afraid of the bogeyman.


> > situation.
>
> >
>  (edit of Mark's personal stories)
>
> > > > >
> > > >>> > >
> > > We all pay taxes, Mark.   hahahaha
> >
> > Indeed!  Only the hardcore feminists cheered on single welfare
> > mothers while most normal working heterosexual women broke ranks.
>
> I myself supported welfare reform, Mark.

Yeah, you wanted it "reformed" so you'd get more money  haha



  > >
> > > Suggesting that women are paying more taxes
> > > doesn't work for me.  :-)
> >
> > >
> So, you are saying that feminism effects men more?  :-)
> >
> >(edit)
> > Here's the thing: Despite all the so-called "equality"
> > and continued chivalrous handouts such as alimony,
> > you still have to make women out as being oppressed
> > by some boogyman Patriarch somewhere in their hidden
> > fortress.
>
>  Alimony isn't provided out of chivalry; it's actually payment for a
> sacrifice of career

Most of these girls "careers" consisted of "do you want onions on that
burger"



> > (edit)>
> > We don't need to force abused women

That's ALLEGED abuser. You know the difference?



 to stay with abusers just to
> satisfy your> misogynistic NEEDS.
> >
> > As many women are discovering, being a single spinster
> > woman or winding up working long hours as a corporate
> > droid to be a single mother isn't a walk in a rose
> > garden either.
> >
> >
> > The so-called abuser at least paid the bills and didn't leave
> > the poor woman to yearn for Germanic liberators. :-)
>
> into office.  :-)
>
> >
> > > > Men built stuff.  You gals just squandered any power you had.
> > >
> > > > > That's just it: ATTENDING college alone doesn't
accomplish squat.
>
> > > Zilch.  Nada.  Graduating doesn't accomplish anything either.
> > Ultimately, the young women's personal lives include
> > their family, a healthy work environment they find fulfilling,
> > and a cost of living that's affordable for them.
>
> >
> > The urban sprawl and highly competitive environment that
> > feminism has thrust such women into is in all ways
> > less fulfilling for most women's overall goals.

Men understand females and their motives very well.



>
> > >
> > regards,
> > Mark Sobolewski
>




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