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from: `hyerdahl` hyerdahl3{at}aol
date: 2005-04-05 05:02:00
subject: Re: Even Portugal Getting Rid of Fundy Laws

John Templeton wrote:
> Hyerdahl wrote:
> > John Templeton wrote:
> >
> > > First of all, abortion isn't a "fundy" law.
> >
> > Not giving equal rights to women is ALWAYS fundy inspired by men
who
> > want control over women.
> >
> Once again, abortion isn't about equal rights. You already got proven
> wrong ove that, remember?
>
You couldn't argue your way out of your daddy's sock, dear.


> > Their laws were fine as
> > > they were: "Abortions are permitted in Portugal under exceptional
> > > circumstances, including rape or medical need..." That's the way
it
> > > should be.
> >
> > Nonsense!  In order for women to have the same privacy rights over
> > their bodies, that men have, they must have the right to choose.
> >
> Yeah, the privacy rights over their own bodies, sure. But not rights
> over the baby growing inside her that she either chose to have or was
> too stupid/slutty to prevent from happening.

If the potential life can live on the outside, so be it.  She still has
the right to remove it, dear.

>
> >  "Portugal's teenage pregnancy rate is about 20 per 1,000,
> > > among the highest in the European Union."
> >
> > Indeed.  Now that laws are being eased, the girls will have more
hope
> > and more options.
> >
> More hope for what? More sex? Does this make sense to you? More
> options? Let's see: there's have a baby, and not have a baby. Seems
> pretty simple to me. But if you start to have your baby, you can't
> start crying and saying, "Aah! Undo! Undo!"
>

That's ok Steve; most people abort before the baby is being born.

> >  So what you're saying is Portugese teens should be allowed to have
> > unprotected sex as much as they want, since they can always get an
> > abortion later.

There is already no law in Portugal about teens being arrested for
having consentual sex.  Did you really think there were such laws?
> >
> > Without such, you are only punishing teen GIRLS for sex dear.
That's
> > nothing new to sexists or fundies, and the press will be
> acknowledging> more and more how sexism and fundamentalism go hand in
hand.
> >
> No, that would be punishing teen BOYS AND GIRLS for their bad
> decisions. Big difference smartie - you can have sex and not have a
> kid, or haven't you heard yet?
>
You still don't get to burden women more than men Simpleton.


> >  What you're> suggesting is the legalization of mass murder caused
by
> > lack of morals.> You really are a dumbass.

Abortion is not murder just because you waved your third leg thinking
it was a magic wand.

> >
> > It would seem that I'm much smarter than any woman in your life; in
> > fact, you're so totally unable to debate, you remind men of Steve
> > Imparl, who I called 'Simpleton'.  Now, get on your patriarchal
high
> > horse and pretend you control even one woman, dear.
>
> And what are you basing that assumption on?

On the assumption that no woman would have such a dweeb.


By what I've seen from you
> in the limited time we've spent together, you're the most neurotic,
> inflammatory, whiny, not to mention CONTRADICTORY, narrow-minded
> equal-opportunity whore I've ever encountered. Congratulations,
you're
> a queen among queens.

That's music to my ears, Steve.  :-)  If you actually liked me, I'd be
offended.



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