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from: Mac Breck
date: 2008-04-04 22:38:02
subject: Re: NBC Universal is dividing TV studio

Jack Bohn wrote:
> Mac Breck wrote:
>
>> Found this when I was looking just now:
>>
>> List of Sci Fi Channel (United States) programs
>>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Sci_Fi_Channel_%28United_States%29_programs
>>
>> and
>>
>> Sci Fi Channel (United States)
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sci_Fi_Channel_%28United_States%29
>>
>> ...and under that check out:
>> *Non-science-fiction programming*
>
> You know, I see no mention of "Crossing Over With John Edwards"
> on these pages.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but....

It's "Crossing Over with John Edward" and it should be there.
http://www.johnedward.net/

John Edwards was one of the Democratic candidates for President.
http://johnedwards.com/

While the political candidate wasn't my favorite, I still don't want to
mix him up with John Edward.  :P



> Having some time, I've put their First Run series in
> chronological order and hunted down selected Second Run series,
> the miniseries (marked with +), and some original movies (-):

What is the * for?


> 1992
>  *Sightings
If it's the one I'm thinking of, didn't care for it.  Seemed like cheap
filler.

> 1997
>  *Mission Genesis
Don't remember it.

> 1998
>  *MST3K (2004)
Loved it.

>  *Sliders (2000)
Really liked it, all except for the last seasons where almost all of the
main characters left the show.

>  *Welcome to Paradox
Don't remember it.

> 1999
>  *Farscape (2003)
Really liked it.

>  *First Wave (2002)
Liked it.

>  *G vs E (2000)
Really liked it.

>  *Crossing Over


> 2000
>  *Exposure (2002)
Don't remember it.

>  *The Invisible Man (2002)
Liked it.

>  *The Secret Adventures of Jules Verne
Liked it more than The Invisible Man (2002).

>  *Lexx (2003?)
Couldn't stand to watch it.

>  +Dune
Never been a fan of Dune.  Not my cup of tea.

> also began marathoning one show in the morning through afternoon.
> 2001
>  *Black Scorpion
awful crap. Its only worth is as MST3K fodder.

>  *The Chronicle (2002)
I could watch it. (Never saw all of the eps.)

>  *The Outer Limits (2002)
Liked it.

>  *Crusade
When I saw this in first run on TNT, and wasn't used to the characters
or the music, I thought it was so-so.  After I watched the series a few
times, and got to know the characters better, and see the little
nuances, and got how the music set the just the right alien-foreign tone
for the show, I really liked it.  The music is too loud in places, and
the end "music" from "Ruling from the Tomb" is awful, but sans
TNT-Atlanta interference, I could see loving this show as much as
Babylon 5.

> 2002
>  *Stargate SG-1 (2007)
Really liked it.  Great characters!

>  *Brimstone
Absolutely loved it.  It had me from the first few scenes of the pilot.

>  +Firestarter 2: Rekindled
Never watched it.  Could have, but wasn't interested.

>  +Taken
Bloated.  Watching it was a chore.  Isn't it mandatory to mention Steven
Spielberg in the title?  This was advertised *to death*, so much that it
probably rivals how many times The Eagles' "Heartache Tonight" was ever
played, and that was a song I got thoroughly sick of hearing.  To this
day, I change the radio station when I hear "Heartache Tonight".
Wouldn't watch Taken again if somebody paid me.

>  -start of Sci Fi original films
>  -Legend of the Rangers
95% of the movie was awful.  It's either predictable, or is "I can't
bear to watch these scenes." awful.  The only positive standouts were
*Dulann*, Na'feel, Firell and David Martel (when he's not being Mr.
Exposition.).  G'Kar seemed "off."  Making this instead of Crusade was a
huge mistake on Sci-Fi's part.  Made me long for Crusade.

> 2003
>  *Battlestar Galactica (c)
Started out looking promising, but went steadily downhill.  Petty,
trashy, like a daytime soap set in space.  Sold my DVDs.

>  *Scare Tactics (2006)


>  *Tremors
Kinda liked it, in a guilty pleasures sort of way.

>  +Children of Dune
See Dune above.

>  -Riverworld
Never watched it.

> 2004
>  *Andromeda (2005)
Couldn't stand Sorbomeda.

>  *Ghost Hunters (c)
Never watched it.  It's sort of a documentary, right?  I can take this
kind of stuff as a fictional story, but not as a documentary.

>  *Mad Mad House


>  *Proof Positive
Don't remember it at all.

>  *Stargate Atlantis (c)
Really like it.

>  *Tripping the Rift (2005)
Never watched it.

>  +5ive Days to Midnight
Never watched it.

>  +Legend of Earthsea
Never watched it.

> 2005
>  *Firefly
Similar reactuion to that I had with Crusade.  When I first saw it, I
was put off by the twangy western score and sixguns, but on subsequent
viewings I liked it more and more.

>  +The Triangle
Never watched it.

>  -Man With the Screaming Brain
Never watched it, but based solely upon the title, this is one I might
look up.

>  -Man-Thing
Never watched it.

> 2006
>  *Doctor Who (c)
Never watched it, any of it.

>  *Eureka (c)
Never watched it.

>  *ECW (c)


>  *Who Wants to be a Superhero? (c)
Never watched it.

>  *Heroes
Never watched it.

>  *Chuck
Saw one ep.  Looks OK.

>  +Dark Kingdom: The Dragon King
Never watched it.

>  +The Lost Room
Never watched it.

> 2007
>  *The Dresden Files
Really liked it, although I wish it's been closer to the books.  I'm
reading "Grave Peril" right now, and am enjoying it much more than
either "Storm Front" or "Fool Moon",

>  *Flash Gordon
Never watched it.  Flash Gordon, in general, isn't my thing.

>  *Painkiller Jane
Never watched it.

>  +Tin Man
It's in my Netflix queue.  I'd watch it solely because Zooey and Neal
are in it.

>  -Earthstorm
Never watched it.

>  -Highlander: The Source
Never watched it.  Heard it was bad.



> It appears your sweet spot was 2001-2002 (MSTK apparently still
> in reruns, although only one season of it had been produced by
> SciFi).  According to:
>
>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.mst3k/browse_thread/thread/a7cf6eb86bae64df/3e3faae9224ce93c?lnk=st&q=%22bonnie+hammer%22+-stupidity#3e3f
aae9224ce93c
>
> Bonnie Hammer became Senior Vice President, Sci-Fi Channel
> Programming in 1998.
>
> It would be a lot more work to track down the scheduling of
> "Third Run" programming, that is to say, the old stuff; either
> pulled from syndication like Hulk, Twilight Zone, or Trek, or
> never syndicated because of short length like Earth 2 or
> Otherworld.  As jayembee notes, there's stuff some people haven't
> seen.  (And where else are ya gonna see it?)  I'm particularly
> sorry to have missed all but an episode of Probe, and this
> Mission Genesis looks interesting.

-- 
Mac Breck (KoshN)
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cheat, won't suck your blood even when you beg them to, and for some
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