BS> MG>     This is the wrong conference, go to civlib.
BS>  Actually, it was the lead-in for the Keri Jewel story, 
BS>  Matt.  
     In that case, read from the message I just entered in 
Politics.
Origin: DOC'S - 0437 - Politics
  From: MATT GIWER                    Public  
    To: MICHAEL SHIRLEY
  Date: 08/15/95 at 22:48
    Re: Waco Truth emerges
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MS> MG>DD>   Yep, and it was that rapist whom you're attempting to
MS> MG>DD>   whitewash who gets most of the blame for their deaths.
MS> MG>      Why is it you folks are so slackjawed you can't get
MS> MG> beyond this ancient bit of horseshit?
MS>          You're forgetting something here.  First, in this
MS>  country, like it or not, there is a social constant that
MS>  says that the accusation is the fact.  Remember Ed Meese's
MS>  claim that the police don't arrest innocent people??
     Speaking of Meese, can we get him back?  Reno and Meese
appear to be equal on the censorship and law and order issues but
Meese was at least qualified for the job.
MS>          The second thing is that you're dealing with a
MS>  bunch of liberals who generally like gun control on the one
MS>  hand, and who at the same time would have been happily out
MS>  for blood if Waco-I and Waco-II had happened on the
MS>  Republican's watch.  (And if Bush had been in office, there
MS>  would have been no difference in the outcome either, given
MS>  that what had happened was the result of policies which
MS>  were originally put in place during the Nixon
MS>  Administration, courtesy of Elliot Richardson and Rex
MS>  Davis.)
MS>
MS>          That really puts them in a bind, because they are
MS>  in denial over the fact that the permanant government
MS>  behaved just exactly the same whether it was under a
MS>  Republican or Democratic Administration.  To them, the only
MS>  way that they can deal with this is by denial and by making
MS>  the allegation that Koresh was a Pedophile, (which is
MS>  possible but unproven) to be the sole charge of
MS>  consequence, regardless of the other concerns in the case.
MS>
MS>          In short, you're dealing with ideologues who are
MS>  running data through a reality filter and anything which
MS>  doesn't fit their model is getting filtered out.  (Kinda
MS>  reminds me of the guys who supported Nixon in 72 and after.
MS>  Same thing really.  They couldn't ever believe that their
MS>  guy pulled that kind of stuff so it didn't happen,.......)
     I have not gotten around to expressing it my way but yours
is as any I have seen.  It certainly is a problem now that they
are the "law and order" party defending someone other than the
poor criminal in need of rehabilitation.  That is the one thing I
have not heard them suggest for Koresh.
     Since they have been so "feeling" for mere drug dealers and
mass murders there reservoir of hatred is channeled into a few
selected areas, pedophilia being one of them, not paying child
support another, all of it feminization of a political position.
     It also goes back to the "cannibal" syndrome, in every
primitive tribe, the cannibals always lived over the next hill.
Back when religious conflict was a big thing the other religion
was always into child sacrifice.  Today when it is psychology it
is child abuse.  When it is the TV tabloids everyone is into
satanic ritual abuse just like in the Dark Ages.
     For a short time we had at least a rational respite in
McCarthyism.  At least one was or was not or had ever been a
member.  Today you can be a satan worshipper and have no way to
disprove it.  In the old days you could at least demand evidence
of membership as in writing.  Today, the same methods that help
you remember being abducted by a UFO work for remember being
abused.  "Total Recall" in real life.
     That so many people are into unquestioning belief of such
things and it always has been a hot button going back to biblical
times it is not surprising that the allegation can be made and
used to justify anything.
     What I find of interest is that they are either so stupid as
not to realize what they are doing or are pandering preachers who
know what they are doing and those listening are taken in.
     It is such an obvious con game that it makes McCarthy look
quite desirable.  At least McCarthy didn't get anyone killed.  (I
will be waiting for a particular response to this statement.
Don't comment on it, wait for it.)
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BS> MG> These days, "for the children," justifies anything, ask the 
BS> MG> McMartins.
BS> Don't I know it.
     A sheltered life.  In California, a preschool where children 
were not only "molested" but hundreds of them were, the pshch was 
creating the memories, some nine million dollars and seven years.  
Tunnels were alleged and never a tunnel found.  Absolutely zero 
tangible evidence ever at any time.  
     HBO has a two hour dramatization on it, better than their 
usual work.  About what I remember from the papers.  I didn't 
have the time to follow it closely as it was happening.
 * RM 1.3 01261 * And I'll be Beetoven.
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