On Tue, 26 Feb 2019 09:57:51 +0100
Björn Lundin  wrote:

> Den 2019-02-25 kl. 23:59, skrev Ahem A Rivet's Shot:
> > On Mon, 25 Feb 2019 21:07:27 +0100
> > Björn Lundin  wrote:
> >
> >> Yeah! And if we remove the seat belts, air bags, and deformation zones
> >> from cars, we would soon only have the 'real' drivers left
> >> Let's call it the 'c' car.
> >
> >  Actually they're called motorbikes and a lot of people drive
> > them.
> >
>
> Yes and they think they are immortal, or at least very good at riding
> them.

 Yep the comparison with C programmers is pretty exact :) or should
that be :(

> However according to
> https://www.iii.org/fact-statistic/facts-statistics-motorcycle-crashes
>
> "In 2016, motorcyclists were 28 times more likely than passenger car
> occupants to die in a crash per vehicle mile traveled."

 C programmers are probably 28 times more likely than OO programmers
to create security holes/potential crashes.

> Yes, a _VERY_ skilled c-programmer thinks that his code is the best.
> It may be. But there are far more programmers that THINK they are very
> skilled c programmers. And they fuck up.

 Just as there are some motorcyclists who are remarkably safe, they
usually have *much* faster reflexes than average and extremely good
concentration. Yamaha produced a very light 350cc bike called the YPVS
which many bikers concluded stood for Young Person's Vehicular Suicide -
the thing was a street legal racing bike

> All buffer overruns can be blamed on the c-language.

 Nah, I'm sure many have been perpetrated in assembler - probably
some by me!

> And the language can either help them to produce better code,
> or it can hinder them. C hinders, Ada helps.

 Ada as a car, C as a motorbike[1] - the former will get you through
London traffic in comfort and safety, the latter will get you there more
quickly with much greater risk. Both have their place but most people
should use a car.

[1] Hmm Java as the tube - safe, reliable, slow and uncomfortable.

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