BK>>>>>>  So, tell me about these oppressive taxes. Just
which taxes would
 BK>>>>>> that be? A short list would be nice.

 BA>>>>> Income and property taxes for starts, the rates are
 BA>>>>> outrageous.

 BK>>>>  I pay something on the order of 10% on income after all is
 BK>>>>  figured.  How is that so much?

 BA>>> That's just about 2.5 times what the government said would
 BA>>> be the maximum rate when the tax was invented.  It's also
 BA>>> much higher than the taxes that sparked the American
 BA>>> Revolution.

 BK>>  It wasn't the amount, but the taxation without representation.

 BK>>  And my income is much higher than when the tax was invented.

 BA> Doesn't matter.  The tax rate is what I was talking about,
 BA> not the tax dollars.

 The US was tied with Japan for lowest total tax burden, last
 time I checked. That was before the Bush tax cuts, it's probably
 lower now. OTOH, the debt burden is much higher.

 And you did mention the Ameriacan Revolution.

 BK>>>> Property taxes? Live somewhere cheaper.

 BA>>> Paying less than a grand in property taxes seems to be the
 BA>>> exception rather than the rule.  When I lived in

 BK>>  Then where are your excessive property taxes?

 BA> Right below.

 BA>>> Plattsmouth, over a 29 year period my property taxes went
 BA>>> up over 1,000 percent (from about $80/year to over
 BA>>> $900/year, between 1976 and 2005); this on an 825 square
 BA>>> foot hovel that was built in about 1880 on a lot that
 BA>>> measured 44 x 150 feet (less easements).  The tax on the
 BA>>> place is probably over a grand/year today.

 Wait a minute? Where is Plattsmouth?

 BK>>  A hovel? Then move to Ohio. I pay more than that, but I have a
 BK>>  larger and better house. Except the portion where my computers
 BK>>  are kept, my wife does have something to say about that.

 BA> I moved to Iowa.  I pay lower property taxes (in dollars)
 BA> on my place here - which is valued at more than twice that
 BA> of the house in Plattsmouth, includes a house more than
 BA> twice as big as the one in Plattsmouth, 3 outbuildings
 BA> and 2 acres of ground - than I did on that house in
 BA> Plattsmouth.  In point of fact

 Oh, I had thought that was the house you were living in now.
 Wasn't aware you had moved from there.

 BA> the effective property tax rate in Plattsmouth was *five
 BA> times* the effective rate here in rural Mills County.

 And does rural Mills county have the services Plattsmouth has?
 Does it have the cost of living? The infrastructure?



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