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 TW>>>>> Actualy FEED prices are WAY up because of the LIBERAL IDIOT
 TW>>>>> decision to make Alcohol out of a FOOD/FEED Crop.

 BA>>> Distiller's grain is used as feed for cattle and hogs.
 BA>>> Look it up.

 BK>>  And the point of that is? Does it matter what grain is used? If
 BK>>  you are referring to the grain after it has been through the
 BK>>  distiller, I doubt all cattle feed is from distilleries.

 BA> I didn't say that.  I will say that most if not all
 BA> distiller's grain output from ethanol plants is used for
 BA> cattle, hog and chicken feed.

 Ok, that was unclear, above.

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 BK>>>>  I also posted a msg in which I asked how many children have to
 BK>>>>  die to fuel an SUV.

 BA>>> More baloney.  In point of fact much if not most of the
 BA>>> grain grown in this country is used to feed cattle and
 BA>>> hogs, not people.

 BK>>  Are the cattle and hogs kept as pets? Pull wagons? Or fed to
 BK>>  people? Anyway you chose to look at it, grain that goes for
 BK>>  alcohol fuel reduces grain for feeding people.

 BA> My point was and is that the grain you are claiming is
 BA> wasted by making ethanol with it is *also* used to feed
 BA> cattle and hogs.  Sure, the sugar content is reduced but
 BA> the protein and most of the grain volume is still there.
 BA> IOW there's been *no* reduction in the amount of grain fed
 BA> to cattle, hogs and chickens caused by using it for ethanol
 BA> production too.

 Please explain why that isn't being touted by the ethanol
 companies all over the place.

 BA> If there were really a shortage of corn in any part of the
 BA> grain market the price
 BA> would go up.  And the price of corn today is just about
 BA> what it was three years ago, $4/bushel.

 It did go way up for a while. Most likely the demand is not
 currently what it was expected to be.

 BA> Something else you and others are unaware of is that a
 BA> considerable amount of the
 BA> corn that is fed to cattle would otherwise be wasted.
 BA> Those big expensive combines
 BA> leave a LOT of corn on the ground in the field after
 BA> harvest, I'm going to guess 1 to
 BA> 2 percent of it.  Many farmers turn cattle loose in those
 BA> harvested fields, and those
 BA> cattle pick up most of what would otherwise be wasted corn.

 I was not aware of that.

BOB KLAHN bob.klahn{at}sev.org   http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn

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