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to: Ed Vance
from: Roy Witt
date: 2014-05-15 11:56:24
subject: Antennas by Roy

Greetings Ed!

 RW>> Here's something that may interest you.

 EV> Thanks for the URLs.

Welcome.

 RW>> http://tinyurl.com/lu7zvsr

 EV> So a Quagi looks like it has two square reflector sections instead of
 EV> reflector elements?

No, a Quagi has a quad reflector and driven element. The rest are
parasitic orhestra* leaders. 8^) > directors*

 EV> I would guess that them being of a larger size helps the Front to
 EV> Back Ratio?

The F2BR is quite good, as is the forward gain. I made those from an
10mtr example printed in 73 Magazine, back in the 70s, while I was
unemployed and vacationing at home, c1977.

 EV> As I was typing near the end of this message I remembered a SQUALO
 EV> Antenna, if I spelled it right, and just had to write about it.
 EV> I think it was a Square Halo antenna way back in the 1960's for 6M
 EV> and maybe 2M. It's been a L O N G time since I've thought about
 EV> those.

SQUALO is an acronym for Square Halo antenna. These aren't the same
antennas.

 RW>> and

 RW>> http://tinyurl.com/km56byy

 EV> It has been a long time since I seen a Gizmotchee Antenna.
 EV> The ones I saw IIRC only had two sections, Yours has four.

Note that it has one driven element for either vertical or horizontal
polarization. Tha required two lengths of coax run to a switch box at the
operating station. I used RG8 for that. Coax was cheap in c1969.

 EV> Remember I never heard them called by that name until You mentioned
 EV> it some time ago.

What were they called then?

 RW>> and

 RW>> http://tinyurl.com/kpoaj8o

 EV> I couldn't tell much about the Horn Antenna from the photo.
 EV> What freq is it cut for?, 1296Mc/s?

No, it is much more broadbanded than that. Once I figured out what the
problem was with the tuning device, it covered 800Mhz to 2.1Ghz on a
spectrometer...

 EV> The file is called HORN2ANT.GIF, is it for 2 Meters instead of 1296?
 EV> I think I saw Rods on the sides of the Horn Antenna, is that right?

No, that 2 just designates that this is a picture of the horn antennea,
#2...I have several more photos of it that includes the initial start of
the antenna to this one, the final version as delivered to the customer.

I also have one of my wife holding a wave guide in front of the back door
to my shop; to show it in proportion to familar things.

 EV> You sure have many interesting Antennas, I feel like a Novice
 EV> compared to You when it comes to talking about Antennas, as I've Made
 EV> very few antennas, and they were of the common type.

Thanks for the accolades. And don't feel like a novice, because some of
the gear that you have and still use makes me feel like a novice operator.

 EV> But Ham Radio does have so many interesting things about it!

It sure does. I had an interest in packet radio for a while and it was
quite interesting. The most fun I had in it was trying out some of my own
yagi antennas to reach packet stations up the coast from San Diego to
Santa Barbarbra (spelling) on UHF frequencies. I started out with a 5
element, then a 6 element and finally a pair of stacked 6 element yagi'.
Then went back to just a driven element and a mirror (reflector).

 EV> Some folks excel at lots of different parts of it that we are
 EV> entitled to experiment with during our License Term. And when they
 EV> write about it, the whole Ham Community learns too.

IMO, Wayne Green did that the best of all. Yeah, he rambled on about his
US Navy experiences during WW2 aboard a submarine, but he also had some
very interesting and challenging ideas.

 EV> I saw The Note about the addition You will make to the echo Rules.
 EV> I don't feel anything I Write or Read here would be considered
 EV> plagiarism,

You're not trying to 'best' someone in a knowlege contest either.

 EV> No One is stealing someone elses stuff by referring to
 EV> what they've read about, and sharing those thoughts in a BBS echo,
 EV> and not giving a Reference where the material they are talking about
 EV> originated from.

They are if they quote it verbatim and don't give the true author his
due, nor where one can find that info and varify the source.

 EV> There are thoughts I remember sometimes of things I experienced many
 EV> many years ago and probably are of no use to most people, but once in
 EV> a while those memories come back to me and I even may mention them to
 EV> someone.

That's ok to do, as it is something you have experienced yourself. Quoting
someone else's work to bolster your position on something without giving
them credit, isn't. And we can all learn from such sources, if they're
given credit where credit is due.

 EV> While writing the above paragraph I remembered a man I knew in
 EV> Alameda, California who was a Ham in his younger days, who told me he
 EV> welded two Dimes on his Telegraph Key to use with his Spark
 EV> Transmitter, because he kept burning out the contact on the Keys he
 EV> used. When he told me this he wasn't licensed anymore but told me
 EV> about it after learning I was a Ham.

I can believe that. Especially when you consider that sending morse code
requires interupting the Continous Wave of a CW transmitter. Especially a
spark transmitter.

 EV> Sure, that information isn't of much interest today, unless Amateur
 EV> Radio History is of interest to someone.

It's still an interesting piece of information that many youngsters today
wouldn't have a clue about, unless they have studied the early days of
radio.

 EV> I haven't transmitted a signal in years but even though fooling
 EV> around with computer stuff is more interesting to me, I still enjoy
 EV> reading about what is happening in Amateur Radio.

Yeup...(as I contemplate the way in which I'll be making that little UHF
LPDA for experimenting on 'how to gain reception of some Austin, TX HDTV
stations' that have escaped me so far)

    Have a day!

         R\%/itt - K5RXT

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