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G'morning David,
DW> You've lost me...
Sorry ...
We agreed that the `set algebra' for your problem, given 20cm^2
circles and a central overlap of 3cm^2 comes up with...
Cover Segment Total
Thrice 3 3
Twice 6 18
Once 5 15
Total = 36
Spurred by your quest for proof that this could not be drawn on a
flat surface, I solved the set algebraic formula for the problem,
using two different scenarios;
First, I accepted that the 20cm^2 circles must cover 36cms^2 but
left the 3cm^2 constraint out. This only gets me....
-> Cover Segment Cm^2 Total Cm^2
-> Thrice 1.1572999 1.1572999
-> Twice 7.2284667 21.6854002
-> Once 4.3857666 13.1572999
-> Totalling... 36.0000000
Here the optimum area covered by all three circles is 1.16cm^2,
NOT 3 as set. Worst - when I draw it, the equilateral triangle
has sides equal to the radii, and the centre section is obviously
close to 5cm^2 - NOTHING like 1,16....
Next, setting the thrice to 3 cm^2 and leaving the total area
unconstrained then has that total coverage rise....
-> Thrice 3 3.0
-> Twice 1.0237947 3.0713841
-> Once 14.952411 44.857233
-> Totalling... 50.9286171
And here the optimum now covers 51cm^2, nothing close to the 36 in
your problem. Trying to draw this doesn't succeed - but the
equilateral triangle now has sides equal to 3cm....
To me, the original problem was crafted using set logic,
expecting geometricity to follow - unjustifiably.
What is now unclear to me is why set algebra is so at odds with
the geometry - I've gone through my texts here without finding a
mention of such an alarming lack of correspondence at all....
I double-checked by considering a probability problem, worked out
the interactions of 3 20% conditions...
All Three - 0.8%
Any Two - 9.6%
Just One - 38.4%
Total - 49.8%
....remembering I failed to do this years ago; sure enough,
attempting to set %'s = cm^2 in a true geometric rendering just
dont work...
Ask for a model answer, drawn on a flat surface...
:-)
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