Hi, Chuck.
Thanks for stepping forward to identify thyself as the questioning
party.
CL>> AP> I don't remember who it was that was asking recently about how to
CL>> AP> avoid GeoFile crashes ...
CL>> (With hand raised)... Yes, I asked about it.  Thank you for adding to
CL>> your comments.
It's very nice of you to thank me for posting something later than
sooner.  It definitely should have been in the original message.
But I didn't realize I had left that information out until I was
working with the database the other day and automatically did that
to close and exit back to the desktop. Something nagged at me about
that post to you, so I went back to my ascii copies of my reply packets
to see if it was in there.  I was appalled to find that it wasn't as
that is what I consider the prime reason I don't have GeoFile crashes
and lockups.  FWIW, in contrast to what I normally do, the couple of
times last week that I was in a hurry and decided to leave without
doing that to see if my "trick" is merely a figment of my imagination,
GeoFile locked up on me on exit. I had to reboot the computer and come
back to the desktop with a reset command. But, unlike your stated
problem of the file being corrupted, both times after I reset and went
to my Mail Prep Folder, my GeoFile database opened without any
difficulty and I finished my work and exited in what is the normal
fashion for me. So I do think my "trick" is a worthy one for GeoFile
users to consider trying.
CL>>Hey, I'm an "old" (relative term, of course) CPM user.  I started on
CL>>an Osborne.  Still have one sitting around, as a matter of fact.
I still have my Kaypro IV and all the original program disks and my
TI-855 Dual Mode Printer.  They're stored in a closet along with all
my old bookkeeping records disks for my part-time business in case I
ever need to access them again.  There is a shareware utility that
enables one to convert CPM to Geoworks format.  Terri Ferrier
downloaded it for me from some BBS (probably The Hole) and sent it
to me on a floppy disk in 1994, but I've never had time to install it
and learn how to use it and try it out, so I've never registered it
and can't remember who wrote it although I'm sure the information is in
a readme file on the floppy if you want to try it on your Osborne disks.
I had already retyped all my database records from the Kaypro by
hand from hard copy printouts when she sent it, and the only reason
I would need to try it out would be if I had a good reason for
opening those old bookkeeping records which were just text documents
by category of expense item and check number, etc., which I printed out
and totaled with a regular desk calculator and then typed the totals
with my old IBM Selectric Typewriter. 
When I finally stopped using my Kaypro at all a year after I started
with Ensemble, it was because of an intermittant screen image flicker
problem that cut off communication with the printer in the middle of
a print job whenever it occurred. So, if I ever do need any of the
material on those old CPM disks, I'll probably decide to try out that
shareware utility (which might be freeware by now  for all I know)
to get it into Ensemble rather than set the Kaypro up again.
CL>> Would you believe that there are avid computer users who do not have
CL>> the slightest idea what CPM is (or was)?
Yes.  Would you believe that there are just as many who never heard of
IBM Mag Card, Savin Wordmaster, Vydec, Lexitron, Lanier Word Processor,
Exxon Qwx, IBM Displaywriter Texpack 2, 4 and 6 (with Reportpack), and
Wang Word Processor?  Have you ever heard of those?  If not, then I
definitely outdate you, and you are not nearly as old as you feel. 
CL>>Now THAT makes me feel old .
It's all relative.  As to the predecessors to CPM (which was predecessor
to and simultaneous with the early versions of DOS) that I mentioned
above, I'll give you a small hint as to their antiquity.  Lexitron
made by Raytheon was state of the art in 1977. Vydec and Wang preceded
it with 4 or 6 line screen displays and then moved to full screen
displays about the time Lexitron arrived on the market.
With apologies to the moderator for the off-topic discourse, and now
getting back on topic , although I used DOS-based PCs at work in
the late 80's and early 90's and also a MAC, I stuck with my CPM at
home until 1993 and went straight from it to a 486/33 with an
immediate deletion of Eight in One for Windows that the computer
shop had included in my deal and a decision not to buy WordPerfect
or anything else because I had fallen in love with Geoworks Ensemble
2.0 when I visited Terri Ferrier six months earlier to see hers in
action. I ordered my copy, got it before the computer, and had
my salesman guru install it on my computer the day he brought it to
my house after hours and set it up for me for a very reasonable fee
since I was scared to do it myself and Terri Ferrier couldn't drive
from Victoria to Houston to do the deed for me.  Of course he knew
nothing of Geoworks and we had Terri on the other end of a long
distance telephone line explaining things to him about what it was
supposed to do and how.  Now I use WordPerfect 6.0 and 6.1 for
Windows in one office job and WordPerfect 5.1 for Windows at the
other and WordPerfect 5.1 DOS at the third part-time job, have
WordPerfect 6.0 for Windows on my computer here in case I have to do
some work at home for my lawyers or take on some freelance work, but
I use Geoworks Ensemble 2.0 *exclusively* for creation of my canine
newspaper and for all my personal typing.  Even though there are
some WordPerfect features I would love to have in GeoWrite, they are
not essential enough for me to give up Ensemble.  I just figured out
workarounds that work well enough for me to stay satisfied with it as
my first choice suite of applications for everything I want to do.
                                                Anne Page
CL>>TTFN --CHUCK--
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