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G'morning David DW> But how did you calculate these figures? I expressed the problem as... 36 = 20 - 3x + y, or 20 = z + 3x - 3 ...and ran them through my MEDIATOR - a Media Calculator I wrote sometime ago when I was supposed to be the local guru on media audience analysis, formation and planning for mass communications purposes. DW> But it also looks to me like you *assumed* that the centres DW> of the circles are at the vertices of an equilateral triangle, and DW> there is nothing in the problem that states that this must be so. When I got to try rendering the logical answers on paper, and only to the extent necessary to judge the fit. DW> all you've proved is that it's impossible for the circles to be in the DW> equilateral-triangle arrangement. Some other arrangement may be DW> possible. Mmmm - well, as far as I can see, NOT for all the possible Diophantine variations... Thrice 0 3 6 9 12 Twice 24 18 12 6 0 Once 12 15 18 21 24 Total 36 36 36 36 36 And, of course, circles are stated, and fit in with the mind- state attending the Venn diagramme model. DW> The question is: Can *any* arrangement of the circles exactly fulfill DW> the problem's description of the situation? If so, what? And if not, DW> can we prove it? I suspect not on any flat surface as specified - and I lack the topological skills to even suggest a non-surface that might permit it. So, given that each possible logical integral arrangement and the two alternative non-integral arrangements cannot be drawn as specified on a flat surface, may we not pronounce the matter proven - subject only to a model answer disproving the pronouncement ? Which leads to further thoughts... :-) ___ MultiMail/MS-DOS v0.45 --- Maximus/2 3.01* Origin: === Maxie BBS. Ak, NZ +64 9 444-0989 === (3:772/1) SEEN-BY: 633/267 270 @PATH: 772/1 140/1 106/2000 633/267 |
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