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to: ROBERT PLETT
from: ROY J. TELLASON
date: 1998-01-08 09:18:00
subject: Libertarian Party

Robert Plett wrote in a message to Roy J. Tellason:
 RP> On 01-07-98, ROY J. TELLASON declared to ROBERT PLETT:
RJT> RP> It is Godless, in which respect it is the same as the liberals,
RJT> RP> and reflects such in myriad positions, be it social issues in
RJT> RP> general, or its view of "separation of church and state".
RJT> RP> Neither its statement of principles or its platform contains
RJT> RP> such words as God, Lord, Creator, Almighty, etc., for that
RJT> RP> reason - not even the word faith is to be found in them in any
RJT> RP> context, let alone a religious one.
RJT>(Remainder snipped for brevity.)
RJT>Do you feel,  then,  that such stuff is the business of government?
 RP> Depends on what is meant by "such stuff".
 RP> If you mean should your religion or mine, or the lack thereof, 
 RP> be the business of government, then the answer is emphatically 
 RP> no.
That's what I meant,  there.
 RP> OTOH, it *is* the business of government to submit itself, be 
 RP> guided by His revealed Word, and to honor the higher authority 
 RP> that is God Almighty.  Governments exist in the first place 
 RP> because God ordained them as His ministers, "an avenger who 
 RP> brings wrath upon the one who practices evil." (Rom 13:4)
This seems to me to be in direct conflict with the above paragraph.  How you 
can have that degree of involvement of religion in government and yet say 
that religion is _not_ the business of government is something that strikes 
me as a real contradiction...
 RP> Those above statements are in full accord with the thinking of 
 RP> our Founding Fathers who gave us a nation of liberty 
 RP> unparalleled in all of history.  We will not keep it if we 
 RP> reject that thinking, a fact that daily becomes more obvious 
 RP> the further we stray from it.
I don't doubt that at least some of those founding fathers were religious 
individuals,  but it sure seems to me that they managed to keep most of it 
out of government,  at least at the federal level.  Back then,  there was 
apparently a great deal more involvement of religion in state and local 
governments.
 RP> I say that even the most determined atheist supports his 
 RP> interests and his liberty by supporting the higher authority of 
 RP> the God of the Bible over government, even while choosing to 
 RP> reject Him. 
I disagree with this statement.  How can someone who claims that there isn't 
any god support the authority of one?
email: roy.j.tellason%tanstaaf@frackit.com 
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