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to: Rich
from: Adam Flinton
date: 2003-06-21 10:22:04
subject: Re: Trojan 55808

From: Adam Flinton 

Rich wrote:
>    Strange.  I can't remember the last time I read some published
> material that did not use fonts, formatting, and more, even color, to
> get enhanced expressiveness and readability.  Maybe you've can find
> something published in the last few decades too if you look around.
>

Yes but equally a fair few use images to get enhanced expressiveness &
yet we have a binaries section & people prefer that images etc are
deposited there.

Are you proposing to illustrate your point with lots of images inlined with
your posts as well?

A picture is worth a thousand words (or so they say)....

>    As for "plain text is more efficient", if you believe that blanket
> statement than you are being silly or even foolish.  You don't
> identify the criteria you use to judge efficiency.  I'm sure you can
> find one for which this is true.  I don't know about you but to me the
> efficiency for the human being operating the computer as a tool is more
> important than the efficiency of the computer.  Then again maybe you
> take Adam Flinton's position that leads him to type "b4" instead of
> "before".  It may be that he is more concerned with the number of key
> presses for him than he is with the readability to others of what he
> posts.  Is this the kind of efficiency which you are promoting?  It is
> fewer bytes.
>

It is but



   
   


b4




isn't saving much.

Adam

>    MIME compliant means to comply with the MIME RFCs only one small
> aspect of which is the Content-Transfer-Encoding.  The bug in KNode you
> described in having to scroll to the right is a problem with the KNode
> implementation of RFC 2045.
>
> Rich
>
>
>     "Brian Hall"      > wrote in message
>     news:3ef3cb10{at}w3.nls.net...
>     Rich wrote:
>
>      >  I use HTML for some of the same reasons that the web is
>     primarily HTML.
>      >  It's expressive.  I used it to indent the quoted text in my first
>      >  message.
>
>     This is not the web. Plain text is expressive if you say what you mean.
>     HTML decorations add nothing to the discussion.
>
>             I can indent too and I didn't need to use HTML to do it.
>     There is a key
>             on most keyboard labeled "Tab" that can be used to indent
>     plain text.
>
>     My newsreader inserts a little symbol called a "greater than
sign" to
>     denote the quoted text. It seems to work well without adding bloat.
>
>      >  Are you having problems because your newsreader, KNode, is
>      >  not standards compliant and displays the raw text of the message
>      >  instead of just the text part?
>
>     I have it set to display the plain text part and show anything else
>     as an
>     attachment. Your posts do not word wrap correctly and I have to
>     scroll to
>     the right to read them. I only have a problem with messages from
>     people who
>     use HTML. The majority of people here are intelligent enough to realize
>     that plain text is more efficient.
>
>      >  In the messages you post KNode claims
>      >  to be MIME compliant.  Maybe it doesn't know how to display the more
>      >  expressive HTML part.
>
>     MIME compliant means it can decode/uncompress MIME compressed data and
>     produce/encode MIME compressed data for an attached binary, not that it
>     will surround my text with a bunch of useless markup.
>
>     Brian

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