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to: JANE KELLEY
from: ALEX VASAUSKAS
date: 1997-07-05 08:12:00
subject: marijuana & addicti [1/3

Jane Kelley wrote in a message to Alex Vasauskas:
AV>You accept the self-serving diagnosis of people who earnestly want
AV>to believe that they are victims of external forces and are looking
AV>for any excuse to blame their problems on something other than
AV>themselves?
 JK> It is very easy to tell that you haven't the faintest clue as to
 JK> what A.A. or N.A. are all about.  And with the attitude you present
 JK> here, you are not likely to do so.
No.  It is you who apparently does not understand psychology,
notwithstanding you claims to the contrary.  But then, you are
the one who criticizes everyone, including the apparent majority of
doctors and nurses, who don't agree with you.
 JK>  Physiological research, including what I have presented
AV>to you here previously and that you have chosen to ignore, has
 JK> I've got too many books that are full of physiological research. 
 JK> The trend today is to ignore this and keep our jails and prisons
 JK> full.  That is precisely what your blasted mental health does for
 JK> addicts.....keeps them in jail and other places.
You've got this backwards.  I have presented you with the latest
physiological research regarding marijuana and the only trend is for
*you* to ignore it and advocate maintaining prohibition so that
the prisons are being filled with otherwise productive, responsible
people who have done nothing other than possess and use an herb
that is medicinally useful and that happens to also be intoxicating.
Saying something is addictive is meaningless without saying *how
addictive* it is.
I must also admonish you on your continuing misstatement regarding
marijuana being addictive.  As demonstrated by the government study
I provided you and you ignored, even those seeking to find it to
be addictive had to conclude that if it was addictive, it was *less*
addictive than caffeine -- although they could not say that it was
addictive at all.  Nicotine in cigarettes was listed as being 90%
addictive.  Alcohol was addictive to 15% of people who used it.
Cocaine was addictive to 8% who used it.  There were no comparable
figures for coffee or marijuana.  In this context, it was not
meaningful to say that marijuana was less addictive than caffeine,
because water and potatoes are also less addictive than caffeine.
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